Rm-1885O 091817

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1885-O VAM-9
Collaboration by SD Members
OBVERSE ATTRIBUTES:
Large vertical shift in 885 has occurred. The first 8 is slightly doubled at top right inside of the lower loop. Both 8s show a curved spike slanting down to left from the middle right inside of the lower loop. A faint horizontal curved line can be seen at lower inside of the loop of the 5. Additionally, a vertical bar can be seen at the left outside of the loop opening. Slight doubling can be seen at the top of the Phrygian cap. The Date is set low with a slight downward slant to the right, which places the 5 closer to the rim than any of the other digits. The Ear is slightly doubled at left and right inside walls. Later Die States show doubling at the right outside and bottom of the Ear. (Why?)
REVERSE ATTRIBUTES:
The Mint Mark is set slightly high.
NOTE: This die pair is prone to strong strike doubling on the Reverse.
COMMENTS ON THIS COIN:
A) The MTP notes that Later Die States show doubling at the right outside and bottom of the Ear. I have a problem understanding how this additional doubling could have been created after the die making process had long since ended. Die doubling is created at the time a Die is made, not at some point after the Die is being used to mint coins. In my mind, this additional doubling would most likely have happened at the time the coin was minted. If the Die is not properly seated, it can move or bounce a bit at the time the coin (planchet) is struck creating a shelf-like doubling. This is "mechanical doubling", which is not a listable feature. Die doubling is listable because the doubling was created when the Die was made altering the intended design of the Die. As a result, all coins minted by that Die will show that same doubling. Mechanical doubling is not listable because that doubling was not created by the Die itself; it was create by a striking error. I must note that doubling, whether Die Doubling or Mechanical Doubling, plays no part in establishing "Die States". A Die State is an observation about the age of a Die within its production lifespan. A coin that has crisp features with little or no flow lines is an Early Die State product. A coin whose features are fading and shows pronounced flow line action is a Late Die State product.
B) This coin's Mint Mark shows itself to be not only slightly high, but also set slightly to the right and tilted right. However, it does fall within the acceptable tolerance applicable to a Mint Mark that is set slightly high and upright. Therefore, this coin's slight deviation cannot be considered as a listable feature.
VAMWorld's information on the VAM-9 is contained in that VAM's MTP. To view this Variety's MTP, please click on the link provided below:
VAMWorld MTP: [ http://www.vamworld.com/1885-O+VAM-9 ]
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