1878-P VAM-170

From VAMWorld
Jump to: navigation, search

1878-P VAM-170 Double Date

Discovered by Leroy Van Allen, December 1965.
This coin is a Hot 50 Morgan VAM.
This coin is a Top 30 1878 Variety
170 II/I 33 - B2c (Double Date) (193) I-3 R-4
Obverse II/I 33 - Doubled LIBERTY shifted slightly to left; doubled P, U, and R. All stars on left slightly doubled; all stars on right doubled. Date doubled, with tops of 1878 showing the greatest shift. Reverse: closed o,broken r

Comments:
1. The late die state (LDS) exhibits clashing, but not significant enough to warrant a sub-variety classification.

Threads:

LVA Plate Photos:

Additional Photos:

The VAM 170 has very distinct doubling across the tops of all four date digits. This is visible with the naked eye and should be a very simple differentiator from the VAM 166.
ASH 1878-P VAM-170 DATE.JPG
The date doubling combined with the die chip shown here will positively identify the VAM 170. There should be no problems confusing this variety with the VAM 166 LEARN THIS
ASH 1878-P VAM-170 DIE CHIP.JPG
The bottom left foot of the left vertical of the R in PLURIBUS is distinctly doubled on the VAM 170. Often this is the first pickup point I see when checking the VAM. I generally begin by checking which reverse the coin has and then I move to the obverse E PLURIBUS UNUM. Once I see the base of this R, I move down to the date and the die chip as shown above.
ASH 1878-P VAM-170 R.JPG
ASH 1878-P VAM-170 LAST.JPG
pictures above are the U in PLURIBUS, the M in UNUM, the 4th left star and the 6th right star on the VAM 170.
Above photos and text are courtesy of Ash Harrison.
Reverse with Broken R in TRUST
1878 Vam 170 Trust.JPG
Doubled R in PLURIBUS
1878 Vam 170 R in PLURIBUS.JPG
Heavilly polished dies on the reverse.
1878 Vam 170 left nock.JPG
Doubled Liberty shifted left. Die scratch in T.
1878 Vam 170 ERTY.JPG
Die chip on neck
1878 Vam 170 die chip.JPG
Repunched date
1878 Vam 170 date.JPG
Doubling on 4th star
1878 Vam 170 4th star.JPG
Here is an NGC MS-65 DMPL submitted by Rick Snow:
1878 Vam 170.jpg

Full Coin Photos

Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-170 Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy ©'[Heritage Auctions] ATTRIBUTED BY 'John Roberts at ANACSANACS LOGO3.jpg
John Roberts is the Director of Attribution Services at ANACS, is a prolific writer of coin articles and books and we're so happy to have him contribute here in this forum as VAMpicker. He informs us that the VAM-170A which is listed as having die chips above the cotton leaves is the same as VAM-170. He has never seen a 170 without the chip. As a result of this,ANACS which slabs ALL VAM numbers, does not slab a VAM-170A.

Top