1878-P VAM-165

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1878-P VAM-165 Spiked P, Doubled Motto, Engraved Wing Feathers

Discovered by Leroy Van Allen, December 1965.
165(revised) II/I 28 - B2m (Spiked P, Doubled Motto, Engraved Wing Feathers) (180) I-3 R-4
Obverse II/I 28- Metal on letters E PLUR and S in E PLURIBUS. Left stars1 through 5 doubled. Right stars 1 though 5 doubled.
Key identifier- Vertical spike top right of P and bar runing down right side of L.
Reverse B2m-broken r, open o (God), Diagonal bars with fine lines between eagle's right wing and body. Weak feathers next to eagle's right leg and middle of wings from over polished die.

1. Once you have seen a few VAM 165 coins, you will never misattribute this coin again. Yes, you may think the doubling on the P in PLURIBUS is the VAM 166 once, because of the fact that there is a doubled foot on the right side that extends beyond the end of the normal foot, plus there is basically a normal left foot on the P. And yes, the top outside of the P is doubled like the VAM 166, BUT, THIS DOUBLING IS SO DRAMATIC, IT IS ONLY ON THE VAM 165. On virtually every 165 I’ve seen, there is “air” between the doubled foot and the normal one. This is NOT SO on the 166
2. This coin comes with and with out clashing, I am not sure if one is rarer then the other!


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Additional Photos:

ASH 1878-P VAM-165 P.JPG 1878p vam165 p.jpg
The L in PLURIBUS has very clear doubling on the right side of the vertical . The top right serif is also very clearly doubled. This is the only variety in the group that shows this dramatic doubling. Look for this first when checking for the VAM 165.
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Most of the letters in E PLURIBUS UNUM on the VAM 165 have significant doubling. It is a very interesting coin, and very common as well. This would be a fun coin to find in MS64, though. This coin has a very interesting feature on the reverse as well—the O in GOD is “open “at the top left. This is not the case on the VAM 166. That being said, it would be very difficult to misattribute the 165 for the 166.( It has the B2m reverse, for accuracy)
Courtesy of Ash Harrison
ASH 1878-P VAM-165 L.JPG ASH 1878-P VAM-165 U.JPG ASH 1878-P VAM-165 R.JPG ASH 1878-P VAM-165 S.JPG
Open O in GOD
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1878-P VAM-165 Doubled L U.jpg

1878-P VAM-165 nostril.jpg

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Ljs-78p-ob3-121517.jpg Ljs-78p-ob4-121517.jpg

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Full Coin Photos

Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-165 Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy 4SDAIR for Attribution and VSS for Photography