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=1889-P VAM-7A High 9, Die Chips Stars & Neck=  
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=1889-P VAM-23B Slanted Date, Worn Polished Obverse Die=  
Discovered by Brent Fogelberg, May 2000<br />
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Discovered as VAM 7A by Brent Fogelberg, May 2000. Redesignated VAM 23B, 2020.<br />
'''7A'''(revised) '''III27 · C3a (High 9, Die Chips Stars & Neck) (190) I-3 R-6'''<br />
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'''23B'''(revised) '''III21 · C3a (Slanted Date, Worn Polished Obverse Die) (190) I-2 R-5'''<br />
'''Obverse III27–''' Heavy die wear in fields with die chips at inside of stars and strong diagonal die clash line at jaw-neck junction. Latest die state also has small die chip at point of neck. Clashed n at neck of [[1889-P VAM-7B|VAM-7B]] has been erased by die wear.<br />
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'''Obverse III21–''' Heavy die polishing removing die clash marks at neck, lower right hair vee, lips and cap back at ribbon and some roughness in fields. Roughness quickly reappears and new light die clash diagonal line appears at jaw-neck junction with die chip at neck point. Die retired shortly thereafter. Same die marker as VAM 23.<br />
'''Reverse C3a–''' Clashed die replaced with normal die without die clash marks.<br />
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'''Reverse C3a–''' Die not changed since no die clash marks appeared, except for very faint vertical line at n of In. Die fields relatively smooth with little wear. Die then re-used with VAM 7 III2 7 obverse. Die marker - Same die marker as VAM 23.<br />
 
'''Threads:'''<br />
 
'''Threads:'''<br />
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[http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4395 New Take on 1889 VAM 23A]<br>
 
== LVA Plate Photos ==
 
== LVA Plate Photos ==
[[image:1889PVam7Astars.jpg]]<br />
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'''Posted Coin Comments:'''<br />
 
'''Posted Coin Comments:'''<br />
 
* Low MS quality Coin.  '''UPDATE  AU58''' 9/9/2017<br />
 
* Low MS quality Coin.  '''UPDATE  AU58''' 9/9/2017<br />
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* LDS Coin with Chip at  Bust point .<br />
 
* LDS Coin with Chip at  Bust point .<br />
 
* Collaboration by: SD Members<br />
 
* Collaboration by: SD Members<br />
'''More Photos @    http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1889V7ARMG080817'''<br />
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'''More Photos @    http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1889V23BRMG080817'''<br />
 
=Diagnostic Photographs:=  
 
=Diagnostic Photographs:=  
 
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Latest revision as of 11:17, 9 October 2020

1889-P VAM-23B Slanted Date, Worn Polished Obverse Die

Discovered as VAM 7A by Brent Fogelberg, May 2000. Redesignated VAM 23B, 2020.
23B(revised) III21 · C3a (Slanted Date, Worn Polished Obverse Die) (190) I-2 R-5
Obverse III21– Heavy die polishing removing die clash marks at neck, lower right hair vee, lips and cap back at ribbon and some roughness in fields. Roughness quickly reappears and new light die clash diagonal line appears at jaw-neck junction with die chip at neck point. Die retired shortly thereafter. Same die marker as VAM 23.
Reverse C3a– Die not changed since no die clash marks appeared, except for very faint vertical line at n of In. Die fields relatively smooth with little wear. Die then re-used with VAM 7 III2 7 obverse. Die marker - Same die marker as VAM 23.
Threads:
New Take on 1889 VAM 23A

LVA Plate Photos

Posted Coin Comments:

  • Low MS quality Coin. UPDATE AU58 9/9/2017
  • Considered by Most as a True R-6.
  • STAGE Rarity.
  • LDS Coin with Chip at Bust point .
  • Collaboration by: SD Members

More Photos @ http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1889V23BRMG080817

Diagnostic Photographs:

1889-P VAM-23B Raw Coin I-2 R-5 - Silver Dye Photography
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