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=1921-S VAM-1B3a '''Thorn Head Die Gouge, Die State 4'''=  
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=1921-S VAM-1B3a Thorn Head Die Gouge, Die State 4=  
 
Discovered in December 2008 by John Baumgart on a coin from C. Logan McKechnie<br />
 
Discovered in December 2008 by John Baumgart on a coin from C. Logan McKechnie<br />
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This coin is a [[HitList40 VAMs|Hit List 40]] Morgan Vam.<br />
 
This coin is a [[HitList40 VAMs|Hit List 40]] Morgan Vam.<br />
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'''1B3a IV 1 D2a (Thorn Head Die Gouge, Die State 4) (189) I-5 R-7'''<br />
 
'''1B3a IV 1 D2a (Thorn Head Die Gouge, Die State 4) (189) I-5 R-7'''<br />
 
'''Obverse IV1 -''' Polished version of die state 3 removing most of the thorn-like gouge in field to right of wheat leaf and part of right wheat leaf, but leaving faint lines to left and right of wheat leaf. Die gouges in cap, in field behind cap fold and in denticles above N remain. Added more polishing lines in top field. No new gouges added or old ones removed.<br />
 
'''Obverse IV1 -''' Polished version of die state 3 removing most of the thorn-like gouge in field to right of wheat leaf and part of right wheat leaf, but leaving faint lines to left and right of wheat leaf. Die gouges in cap, in field behind cap fold and in denticles above N remain. Added more polishing lines in top field. No new gouges added or old ones removed.<br />
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'''LVA Comments:'''<br />
 
'''LVA Comments:'''<br />
 
"A nice find that shows intermediate die state between 1B3 & 1B4. Didn't totally remove any of the die gouges but weakened one at wheat leaf. So doesn't deserve a new sub-variety designation, but only as a sub of 1B3, like 1B4a. So made it 1B3a as you suggested & revised 1B4 description to take out polishing & only leave added gouges. Yes, a nice sequence of die damage & polishing as you outlined. Poor mint worker must have been very frustrated with the sequence of die damage, fixing gouges by polishing only to have die damaged again! He gave up at 1B7 with gouge thru Y that couldn't be polished out with flat polishing wheel."<br />
 
"A nice find that shows intermediate die state between 1B3 & 1B4. Didn't totally remove any of the die gouges but weakened one at wheat leaf. So doesn't deserve a new sub-variety designation, but only as a sub of 1B3, like 1B4a. So made it 1B3a as you suggested & revised 1B4 description to take out polishing & only leave added gouges. Yes, a nice sequence of die damage & polishing as you outlined. Poor mint worker must have been very frustrated with the sequence of die damage, fixing gouges by polishing only to have die damaged again! He gave up at 1B7 with gouge thru Y that couldn't be polished out with flat polishing wheel."<br />
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'''Comments:'''<br />
 
'''Comments:'''<br />
'''1-''' If you have a[[1921-S VAM-1B6| 1921-S VAM-1B6]], you should check it for this variety.<br />
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'''1.''' If you have a[[1921-S VAM-1B6| 1921-S VAM-1B6]], you should check it for this variety.<br />
'''2-''' VAM-1B3A is currently ultra rare, this is the key to the thorn head series along with the 1B7.<br />
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'''2.''' VAM-1B3A is currently ultra rare, this is the key to the thorn head series along with the 1B7.<br />
'''3-''' [[1921-S VAM-1B4|1921-S VAM-1B4]], [[1921-S VAM-1B3|1921-S VAM-1B3]] or [[1921-S VAM-1B|Back to the main 1921-S Thornhead page]]<br />
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'''3.''' [[1921-S VAM-1B4|1921-S VAM-1B4]], [[1921-S VAM-1B3|1921-S VAM-1B3]] or [[1921-S VAM-1B|Back to the main 1921-S Thornhead page]]<br />
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'''Threads:'''<br />
 
'''Threads:'''<br />
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= LVA Plate Photos: =
== LVA Plate Photos ==
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= Additional Photos: =
== Additional Photos ==
 
 
[[image:1b3a_vs_6.jpg]]<br />
 
[[image:1b3a_vs_6.jpg]]<br />
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[[image:1b3a_vs_6a.jpg]]<br />
 
[[image:1b3a_vs_6a.jpg]]<br />
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== Full Coin Photos ==
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= Full Coin Photos =
 
Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy '''©'''[[http://www.ha.com/ Heritage Auctions]]ATTRIBUTED BY [[user:key-dates]]<br />
 
Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy '''©'''[[http://www.ha.com/ Heritage Auctions]]ATTRIBUTED BY [[user:key-dates]]<br />
 
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1921-S_RonH_VAM-1B3A_REV_08282012.jpg
 
1921-S_RonH_VAM-1B3A_REV_08282012.jpg
 
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====2 Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A images below uploaded by '''oldcollectorcoins''' - images courtesy of '''ashmore86/pcgs'''====
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2 Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A images below uploaded by '''oldcollectorcoins''' - images courtesy of '''ashmore86/pcgs'''<br />
 
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==== Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A images below uploaded by '''oldcollectorcoins''' - images courtesy of '''keydates/pcgs'''====
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Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A images below uploaded by '''oldcollectorcoins''' - images courtesy of '''keydates/pcgs'''<br />
 
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occ-key-1921-s-v1b3a-1-14-14.jpg
 
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This coin upgraded to ms 63 pcgs attributed. 26773735 slab number<br />
 
 
PCGS MS63 (attributed) 26773735<br />
 
PCGS MS63 (attributed) 26773735<br />
 
PCGS MS62 (unattributed) 26118302<br />
 
PCGS MS62 (unattributed) 26118302<br />

Latest revision as of 22:42, 11 January 2019

1921-S VAM-1B3a Thorn Head Die Gouge, Die State 4

Discovered in December 2008 by John Baumgart on a coin from C. Logan McKechnie
This coin is a Hit List 40 Morgan Vam.
1B3a IV 1 D2a (Thorn Head Die Gouge, Die State 4) (189) I-5 R-7
Obverse IV1 - Polished version of die state 3 removing most of the thorn-like gouge in field to right of wheat leaf and part of right wheat leaf, but leaving faint lines to left and right of wheat leaf. Die gouges in cap, in field behind cap fold and in denticles above N remain. Added more polishing lines in top field. No new gouges added or old ones removed.
LVA Comments:
"A nice find that shows intermediate die state between 1B3 & 1B4. Didn't totally remove any of the die gouges but weakened one at wheat leaf. So doesn't deserve a new sub-variety designation, but only as a sub of 1B3, like 1B4a. So made it 1B3a as you suggested & revised 1B4 description to take out polishing & only leave added gouges. Yes, a nice sequence of die damage & polishing as you outlined. Poor mint worker must have been very frustrated with the sequence of die damage, fixing gouges by polishing only to have die damaged again! He gave up at 1B7 with gouge thru Y that couldn't be polished out with flat polishing wheel."

Comments:
1. If you have a 1921-S VAM-1B6, you should check it for this variety.
2. VAM-1B3A is currently ultra rare, this is the key to the thorn head series along with the 1B7.
3. 1921-S VAM-1B4, 1921-S VAM-1B3 or Back to the main 1921-S Thornhead page

Threads:

LVA Plate Photos:

Additional Photos:

1b3a vs 6.jpg

1b3a vs 6a.jpg

Full Coin Photos

Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy ©[Heritage Auctions]ATTRIBUTED BY user:key-dates

2 Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A images below uploaded by oldcollectorcoins - images courtesy of ashmore86/pcgs

Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-1B3A images below uploaded by oldcollectorcoins - images courtesy of keydates/pcgs

PCGS MS63 (attributed) 26773735
PCGS MS62 (unattributed) 26118302
PCGS MS62 (unattributed) 26289394
PCGS VAM-1B3(a) XF45 24474818
PCGS 40 unattributed
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