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Discovered by Bill Fivaz, July 1976. Revised 2014<br />
 
Discovered by Bill Fivaz, July 1976. Revised 2014<br />
 
This coin is a [[WOW! VAMs|WOW!]] and a Top 30 1878-S Morgan VAM Variety<br />
 
This coin is a [[WOW! VAMs|WOW!]] and a Top 30 1878-S Morgan VAM Variety<br />
'''18 (revised) II1 - B2e (Extra Engraved Wing Feathers, Break Right Star) (184) I-4 R-5'''<br />
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'''18 (revised) II 1 • B2e (Extra Engraved Wing Feathers, Break Right Star) (184) I-4 R-5'''<br />
'''Obverse II1''' - Point of fourth right star only partially broken. Diagonal die clash line extending to left from eyelid tip. (Also VAMs 59 & 72.) Radial die crack at left side of first right star with displaced field break on initial use with B2 reverse and progressing with die use.<br />
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'''Obverse II 1''' - Point of fourth right star only partially broken. Diagonal die clash line extending to left from eyelid tip. (Also VAMs 59 & 72.) Radial die crack at left side of first right star with displaced field break on initial use with B2 reverse and progressing with die use.<br />
 
'''Reverse B2e''' - Fine engraving lines in middle of both eagle's wings where die was over polished due to incorrect basining. R in TRUST not broken.<br />
 
'''Reverse B2e''' - Fine engraving lines in middle of both eagle's wings where die was over polished due to incorrect basining. R in TRUST not broken.<br />
  
 
'''Comments:'''<br />
 
'''Comments:'''<br />
'''1.''' Extraordinary die gouges within the Eagles' left and right wings from improper basining. Popular, and quite difficult to find.<br />
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# Extraordinary die gouges within the Eagles' left and right wings from improper basining. Popular, and quite difficult to find. The VAM-18 is very rare in Mint State with only 3 specimens in MS attributed by ANACS as of early 2010.
The VAM-18 is very rare in Mint State with only 3 specimens in MS attributed by ANACS as of early 2010.<br />
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# Close examination of the obverse reveals it is the same die as used for VAMs 72 and 59. It appears to be slightly later in the progression than VAM 59 as the obverse clashing is somewhat more polished away.
'''2.''' Close examination of the obverse reveals it is the same die as used for VAMs 72 and 59. It appears to be slightly later in the progression  
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# The telltale difference between VAM 18 and [[1878-S VAM-18A|VAM 18A]] is the wings themselves. They have die gouges running from 8:00 to 3:00 but under them you have some very deep gouges that run from around 11:00 to 6:00.  VAM 18A is seen as the post polished version of this VAM and while the crack is noted as having the displaced break, the key is the polishing of the die. The way the wing gouges are polished down is a better diagnostic than any polishing in the fields on lower grade coins as it is also very different from to the VAM 18.
than VAM 59 as the obverse clashing is somewhat more polished away.<br />
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# [[78-S VAM-18 vs 78-S VAM-18A]]<br />
  
 
'''Threads:'''<br />
 
'''Threads:'''<br />
'''1.''' [http://www.vamworld.wikispaces.com/message/view/home/60549154 VAM 18]<br />
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# Differences between EDS and LDS coins [http://www.vamworld.wikispaces.com/share/view/63163978 EDS/LDS]<br />
'''2.''' Differences between EDS and LDS coins [http://www.vamworld.wikispaces.com/share/view/63163978 EDS/LDS]<br />
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# Revision of 18 vs. 18A [http://www.vamworld.wikispaces.com/share/view/68636434 Revision]<br />
'''3.''' [[78-S VAM-18 vs 78-S VAM-18A]]<br />
 
'''4.''' Revision of 18 vs. 18A [http://www.vamworld.wikispaces.com/share/view/68636434 Revision]<br />
 
  
= LVA Plate Photos: =
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= LVA Plate Photos =
= Additional Photos: =
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= Additional Photos =
[[image:1878-S_VAM-18_Reverse_with_Nock.jpg |816px ]]<br />
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===Main Pick-ups===
#1 Eagle's Left Wing Feathers ...............................................................................#2 Eagle's Right Wing Feathers<br />
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<gallery mode=packed widths=400 heights=300 style="text-align:left">
[[image:1878svam18sw1.jpg |450px  align="left"]]<br />
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1878svam18sw1.jpg
 
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1878svam18sw2.jpg
[[image:1878svam18sw2.jpg |451px ]]<br />
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</gallery>
Point of fourth right star only partially broken<br />
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===Secondary Pick-ups===
[[image:NM_1878-S_VAM-18_Partial-broken-4th-star.jpg]]<br />
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<gallery mode=packed widths=300 heights=200 style="text-align:left">
[[image:1878-S_VAM-18_Eye_with_clash.jpg |653px  |frame|left|Die clash line eye]]<br style="clear:both;">
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1878-S_VAM-18_Reverse_with_Nock.jpg
[[image:1878-S_VAM-18_Nock_Closeup.jpg |649px ]]<br />
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NM_1878-S_VAM-18_Partial-broken-4th-star.jpg|Point of fourth right star only partially broken
Coin photo courtesy of Jim Hart<br />
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1878-S_VAM-18_Eye_with_clash.jpg|Die clash line eye
[[image:1878svam18.jpg]]<br />
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1878-S_VAM-18_Nock_Closeup.jpg
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</gallery>
  
 
= Full Coin Photos =
 
= Full Coin Photos =
Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-18 Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy '''©'''[[http://www.ha.com/ Heritage Auctions]] '''ATTRIBUTED BY Mr. 78-S Tim Barry'''<br />
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Full Coin VAM 18 Images © [http://www.ha.com/ Heritage Auctions], used with permission. Attributed by Tim Barry<br />
 
<gallery mode="slideshow">
 
<gallery mode="slideshow">
 
1878-S_RonH_thru_Tim-Barry_VAM-18_OBV_12112014.jpg
 
1878-S_RonH_thru_Tim-Barry_VAM-18_OBV_12112014.jpg

Latest revision as of 14:56, 4 June 2020

1878-S VAM-18 "Spaghetti Wings" Die Gouges in Wings.

Discovered by Bill Fivaz, July 1976. Revised 2014
This coin is a WOW! and a Top 30 1878-S Morgan VAM Variety
18 (revised) II 1 • B2e (Extra Engraved Wing Feathers, Break Right Star) (184) I-4 R-5
Obverse II 1 - Point of fourth right star only partially broken. Diagonal die clash line extending to left from eyelid tip. (Also VAMs 59 & 72.) Radial die crack at left side of first right star with displaced field break on initial use with B2 reverse and progressing with die use.
Reverse B2e - Fine engraving lines in middle of both eagle's wings where die was over polished due to incorrect basining. R in TRUST not broken.

Comments:

  1. Extraordinary die gouges within the Eagles' left and right wings from improper basining. Popular, and quite difficult to find. The VAM-18 is very rare in Mint State with only 3 specimens in MS attributed by ANACS as of early 2010.
  2. Close examination of the obverse reveals it is the same die as used for VAMs 72 and 59. It appears to be slightly later in the progression than VAM 59 as the obverse clashing is somewhat more polished away.
  3. The telltale difference between VAM 18 and VAM 18A is the wings themselves. They have die gouges running from 8:00 to 3:00 but under them you have some very deep gouges that run from around 11:00 to 6:00. VAM 18A is seen as the post polished version of this VAM and while the crack is noted as having the displaced break, the key is the polishing of the die. The way the wing gouges are polished down is a better diagnostic than any polishing in the fields on lower grade coins as it is also very different from to the VAM 18.
  4. 78-S VAM-18 vs 78-S VAM-18A

Threads:

  1. Differences between EDS and LDS coins EDS/LDS
  2. Revision of 18 vs. 18A Revision

LVA Plate Photos

Additional Photos

Main Pick-ups

Secondary Pick-ups

Full Coin Photos

Full Coin VAM 18 Images © Heritage Auctions, used with permission. Attributed by Tim Barry


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