1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

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1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by vampicker » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:31 pm

I have the coin on my desk today. The LDS of VAM 70 got listed as 70A. The discovery piece is marginally PL.

We could use a new page set up.
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by andywoj00 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:51 pm

I'll set it up...Andy
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by vampicker » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:08 pm

Beautiful, thanks Andy
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Post by andywoj00 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:21 pm

Done. Are you going to shoot some LFCPs? @vampicker

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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by bobbyjenkins » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:38 pm

Wow...Anything new in the 78-P is a big deal to me. Congratulations on that find and new attribution. The reverse die breaks are so cool, I can just imagine the die giving away at any moment after this strike.

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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by collectinsince65 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:44 pm

Cool
Another 78 to look for!
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by vampicker » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:14 pm

OK, here goes
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by RogerRock » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:20 pm

vampicker wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:31 pm
I have the coin on my desk today. The LDS of VAM 70 got listed as 70A. The discovery piece is marginally PL.

We could use a new page set up.
This listing 70A is called EDS by LVA. Vampicker says LDS. Which is it ?
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by vampicker » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:27 pm

I looked at the VAM 70 page and we seem to have a couple of examples up that aren't as cracked as this. If this is the EDS, then they all qualify as 70A. Am I wrong?
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by bigjayvee » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:38 pm

Very Nice JR., Congrats!!! Here's some pics from an example I have. Cracked around the whole circumference as you said and little die breaks btw most of the reverse letters !!!! Check out the break btw "E,D" of UNITED and "A,M" of AMERICA!!!!
VAM 70A,
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by Mhomei » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:38 am

its the spitting image of my 63 DMPL.
Does yours have a obverse crack from S of PLURIBUS to the text stop?

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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by Mhomei » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:49 am

Snapped these real quick
Jr- did you submit this to LVA?
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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by vamnuke » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:14 am

Back to the hunt!

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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by vampicker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:35 am

No, this was a customer's coin
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Post by vamnuke » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:00 am

But will check what I have in the box...

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Post by andywoj00 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:06 am

vampicker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:35 am
No, this was a customer's coin
Does this person want credit for the discovery? The page currently has you shown as discover. LMK and thanks.....Andy

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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by alefzero » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:46 am

It appears my PCGS 62PL is a 70A. Interesting.

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Post by alefzero » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:09 am

Brent was updating the Registry. I augmented the effort to get all the right sets updated to include it. It should be fully and properly represented now.

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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by weth » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:52 am

My DMPL example has those breaks.
I also have a non-prooflike, later die state example where the breaks are slightly stronger and thicker. Hmmmm.

It seems unwise to send in singular coins to LVA for a die stage revision; there should be EDS/LDS examples to show clear differentiation.

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Re: 1878 VAM 70A - new stage listing

Post by blh74 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:56 am

Mine is now a 62PL

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