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1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:35 pm

Need some input on this one. I wanna say 1G, but die cracks are off. There is a tick on the neck for letter transfer.
Any advice is appreciated....Andy
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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by MarkyB » Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:33 am

Its like a 1A2 without pitting. 4A maybe?

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:51 am

MarkyB wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:33 am
Its like a 1A2 without pitting. 4A maybe?
Thanks for the reply.
Probably not the 1A2 as the pitting has to be there, clash line at neck and reverse n don't match along with other markers. Markers for the 4A aren't there either.
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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by keilg1 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:50 am

Boy looks like a 1G in some ways but the date doesn't match up? Don't think it this quite yet but some of the reverse cracks look similar - but not identical.

Definitely not a 1A.

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by Mhomei » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:40 am

Can you confirm reverse?
C3c
C3b
C3a

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:17 pm

Mhomei wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:40 am
Can you confirm reverse?
C3c
C3b
C3a
Hey Mitch,
Don't have the coin in hand yet. Once I do, I'll check and post.
Are the pics insufficient to do this? As I look at the pic, it has all of the following. How does one determine the final hub?

C3-Left serif of A in AMERICA cut down so it is further from wing, bottom feather of eagle's right wing squared off and raised.
a-seven tail feathers
b-round breast
c-slanted top arrow feather
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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:40 pm

How bout 4A2 oh wait , that's not a thing :lol:
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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:46 pm

UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:40 pm
How bout 4A2 oh wait , that's not a thing :lol:
This will be the new variety designation. :popcorn:

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:33 pm

Good luck for sure ! ,,
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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by Mhomei » Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:20 pm

I suspect it's a c3c reverse but the wrong image
Of obverse is posted.

Shoot me a text when you get her

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:31 pm

Mhomei wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:20 pm
I suspect it's a c3c reverse but the wrong image
Of obverse is posted.

Shoot me a text when you get her
This was the auction pic, so I don't know 😕

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:18 pm

Turns out this coin looks like a later stage 24A. Alligator eye not seen in auction pics.

I posted a photo spread at SDP if anyone is interested in looking.

There are other questions. Break to the left of the LIBERTY banner appears to have some displacement. Would this warrant a new listing? There are other breaks as well. Also some star doubling as well and the top flag of the 1 being doubled.

@messydesk please advise on sending in to VSS and thanks....Andy

Pics here:
http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1885V24AAW020623

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:29 am

Holy cow you take some nice pictures! , like the future of the hobby some may tend to think :popcorn: much better than the auction house.IMO
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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by messydesk » Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:44 am

andywoj00 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:18 pm
Turns out this coin looks like a later stage 24A. Alligator eye not seen in auction pics.

I posted a photo spread at SDP if anyone is interested in looking.

There are other questions. Break to the left of the LIBERTY banner appears to have some displacement. Would this warrant a new listing? There are other breaks as well. Also some star doubling as well and the top flag of the 1 being doubled.

@messydesk please advise on sending in to VSS and thanks....Andy

Pics here:
http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1885V24AAW020623
I don't see anything warranting a new listing if that's what you're wondering. Minor cracks with dubious claims to field displacement have done a lot to muddy the waters of attributing coins. I would probably add a couple pictures to the VW page showing cracks that develop later, since that aren't that visible on the existing photos.
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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:20 am

UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:29 am
Holy cow you take some nice pictures! , like the future of the hobby some may tend to think :popcorn: much better than the auction house.IMO
Thanks for the kind words.

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by andywoj00 » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:22 am

I don't see anything warranting a new listing if that's what you're wondering. Minor cracks with dubious claims to field displacement have done a lot to muddy the waters of attributing coins. I would probably add a couple pictures to the VW page showing cracks that develop later, since that aren't that visible on the existing photos.
Yes, that's what I was wondering. I'll add some pics as well. Thanks.

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Re: 1885-P VAM-??

Post by Mhomei » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:56 am

24 and 24a are tough to come by
Nice find

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