1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

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msj606
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1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by msj606 » Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:19 pm

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I know there's a 1921 Morgan VAM 31 that has a meteor shower appearance.
I have this one who is showing that same diagonal pattern but on a huge surface that was attributed on another board to PMD OR die cleaning that is very common. Especially interesting to me is the line through and near her eye.
I cannot find any VAM that addresses the eye. Any thoughts?
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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by DHalladay » Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:43 pm

The 2 lines thru/below the eye are significant in my opinion, and if this is an already-discovered 1921-P VAM they are likely described – but effectively buried in terms of easy visibility – somewhere on its attribution page. Scribbles are the go-to way to nail down an attribution or provide evidence for a new discovery. Do you have the capability of getting a very close closeup of the recessed areas on either side of the eagle's right (our viewing left) leg?
When in doubt... don't.

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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by LateDateMorganGuy » Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:18 pm

Looks like an asphalt parking lot scrape. Hard to tell from the photos.

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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by msj606 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:22 pm

Thank you for the input and help. I attempted a better photo with zoomed in area. The last 2 on the original post are the new ones. FWIW, I thought I saw an "S" in the field by his right leg. But I've stared at coins so long the past few days I don't trust my eyes anymore. :)

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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by DHalladay » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:45 pm

When I said very close closeup, I meant something like this. Pretty much everything else in the surrounding areas in your photos is meaningless.
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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by msj606 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:03 pm

Understood. TY.

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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by msj606 » Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:53 pm

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Here is the closeup of the eagle's leg.

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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by DHalladay » Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:48 pm

PM sent.
Nice result on your first scribbles shot!
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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by Eschaton » Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:42 pm

LateDateMorganGuy wrote:
Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:18 pm
Looks like an asphalt parking lot scrape. Hard to tell from the photos.
What Alan said.

Are we sure these are raised? Looks like PMD.

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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by Kurt28 » Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:58 pm

Aside from VAM identification, you may want to address the green. Acetone is first, and I've had good results following up with Verti-Care.

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Re: 1921-p Morgan "meteor like" VAM?

Post by msj606 » Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:54 pm

Yes, the green stuff is disconcerting. I have read about acetone but wasn't sure if it was something I should try. Thank you for the suggestion.

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