New to VAM analytics...

[browntrout]

Hello,

I am new to your VAM analytics and site... I did try to search the forum and may have just missed these answers... I may have found a new, interesting variant of the 1923-S Peace Dollar. I went through every variant, and did not find the odd mark on mine in any of the many variant you have listed. What I am learning is that there are variations of everything! So, I understand the monumental task that you are tackling! Thank you for your efforts. I also beleive I found a variant of a 1927-D Peace Dollar, that "pre-dates" your VAM-3C variant, as the same line comes out of the leaves, but is not quiet as pronounced. This has been an interesting journey so far trying to ID VAMs. I have worked on only about 40 pieces so far...

Anyway, second question... after reviewing all of the variants for the 1923-S Peace Dollar, it came to my attention that some times I see the same variations in different VAM numbers. Does this mean sometimes they care combines, for example (not a real example), one coin could have multiple VAM's for that one coin?

I will also post this to the forum.

Thank you, Greg C. Brown, M.S.; ISA AM; MN '09.

[fogie]

I turns out a single variety (VAM) can in fact be listed twice. There are several reasons for this and none of them are full on "intentional". They are all a mistake of one variety or another. If you encounter one of these errors I would encourage you to share the details of your findings right here on the VAMworld2.0 discussion board. There are a number of folks that play here that would like to know about these duplicate listings. Personally - I am very interested in these duplicate listings when the are in the Morgan dollar section of VAMs. I try (quite successfully too I might add...) to avoid the Peace dollar side of the game. Have some fun playing the VAM game - later.

[vampicker]

A good place for anyone to start with Peace Dollar varieties is the http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... bution_101 found on the home page. I'd suggest a long look at the clashed die section. Can't tell you how many newer collectors in this field get tripped up by this.

[messydesk]

If you see something specific on your coin, a picture is worth a thousand words. Note, however, that the picture-to-word exchange rate doesn't necessarily scale with the number of pictures.

[browntrout]

Hello, and thank you all for your replies! I will reply to each commenter, below:

- messydesk, Thank you! I would be happy to post pictures. I understand, better and fewer pictures are best. Let me see how my first set do, and if you need better images, I will take more with my macro on my camera, instead of using the system I have set up to take coin pictures with my phone. Now, to figure out the procedure to post images here... So sites are easy, so site require third party software/servers... Time to learn more... Thank you.

- vampicker, Thank you. I have already been tripped up by the term "clash" while looking through the VAMs! Thanks for the link, and I will read that next!

- fogie, Thank you! I will get the images posted. What I can tell you right now is this, there is: a) 1923-S Peace Dollar (I know, not your thing), with possible VAM-1AC, 1AR, 1AV, 1DD, and 1EK on it; b) 1927-D Peace Dollar, with VAM-3 and VAM-3C on it; and c) 1934-D Peace Dollar, with VAM-1 (micro D) and VAM-10. I have examined these coins under 30X, and compared them to ever VAM for each of them listed. I have another client's coins with both Morgan and Peace Dollars, and will deal with that next. Thank you.

Thanks, Greg.

[browntrout]

The 1923-S Peace Dollar seems to include: VAM-1AC; VAM-1AR; VAM-1AV; VAM-1DD, and VAM-1EK.

The 1927-D Peace Dollar seems to include: VAM-3, and VAM3-C.

The 1934-D Peace Dollar seems to include: VAM-1, and VAM-10.

I hope I am doing this correctly after reviewing the posting pics page, but I may not on my first try, as the VAMWorld pic posting pages does not match what I am seeing at all... I think it was Underdog that used to say (I could be wrong), "If at first you do not succeed, try, try, try again!" GCB.

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Seems I am doing something wrong here... I am on a MacBook Pro...

[DHalladay]

Greg:

I'm a Mac guy too.
Are you trying to post RAW files by any chance? (that's what I deduce from the .jpeg extension, rather than .jpg

-- Dennis

P.S. -- Dr. David K. Close @davidkclose is THE go-to source for anything and everything about Peace Dollars.

[browntrout]

Opps! I did not check the extension, as I thought they were JPG, not jpeg! I will change that and see if that works! Great to know about Dr. David K. Close, thank you! Greg.

[browntrout]

SH 1934-D 1.JPG (364.23 KiB) Viewed 709 times

[browntrout]

SH 1934-D 7.JPG (347.91 KiB) Viewed 709 times

SH 1934-D 12.JPG (212.24 KiB) Viewed 709 times

SH 1934-D 13.JPG (202.2 KiB) Viewed 709 times

SH 1934-D 14.JPG (216.57 KiB) Viewed 709 times

[browntrout]

3 1927-D SL 2 NC 2.JPG (335.42 KiB) Viewed 708 times

6b 1927-D SL 5 BP 2.JPG (342.87 KiB) Viewed 708 times

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[browntrout]

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[browntrout]

Excuse the photos, I am learning, have a new set up, and am trying to refine it...

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[browntrout]

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[messydesk]

I'll start with your 34-D you labeled VAM 1. I would call this VAM 6 - small D tilted right. Use ONE as a baseline for what's horizontal and you'll see the tilt in the mint mark. Proper rotation of pictures is very helpful, if not critical, in identifying these sorts of things.

[browntrout]

Messydesk,

Excuse me, and thank you for the instructions! Here is, hopefully, a better, more squared image of the "D" using "ONE" as the line. I will look at the other images, and see if I can do a better job with them. If you have comments, feel free to say them, and I will take the pics according to your advice/needs.

Thank you, GCB.

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[browntrout]

I see, yes, clearly this "D" is not straight! VAM-6! Thanks!

[browntrout]

This is an 1922 Peace Dollar, that I believe to be a VAM-6. Any comments are welcome, thank you, Greg.

CK 1922 Peace VAM-6 1.JPG (364.97 KiB) Viewed 650 times

CK 1922 Peace VAM-6 2.JPG (338.91 KiB) Viewed 650 times

CK 1922 Peace VAM-6 3.JPG (359.27 KiB) Viewed 650 times

CK 1922 Peace VAM-6 4.JPG (381.64 KiB) Viewed 650 times

CK 1922 Peace VAM-6 5.JPG (218.85 KiB) Viewed 650 times

[browntrout]

CK 1922 Peace VAM-6 6.JPG (200.74 KiB) Viewed 649 times

CK 1922 Peace VAM-6 7.JPG (203.13 KiB) Viewed 649 times

[browntrout]

Does anyone disagree that I have IDed these VAMs correctly in my images, with the exception of messydesk's correct to VAM-6? I am so new to this that I simply do not trust I am necessarily correct, and messydesk's correction proves that! Thanks, Greg.