NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 P VAM 67 VLDS with photos

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NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 P VAM 67 VLDS with photos

Post by RogerRock » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:24 am

Wanted to celebrate upcoming 4th of July in a spectacular VAM Fashion! 1921 P $ D1 Reverse that is much more interesting than VAM 19A is about to cross the CRUSHER's desk. This specimen was viewed and photographed by (Mr. 21) Crae Morton at the June Raleigh Expo Coin Show. Obverse major displaced field die breaks with doubled and tripled stars, Reverse retained cud AMERICA, die break wreath and die gouges. Full reveal will be posted after JR's attribution. This silver dollar opens the door for an epic double cud (obverse and reverse ) "possibility" on a Morgan Silver Dollar!! IMO
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by DHalladay » Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:18 pm

Can't wait to see photos of that coin!
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by vampicker » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:25 pm

I'll look forward to seeing it in hand
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by bob259 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:49 pm

Looking Forward to seeing pics!

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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by VamHelsing » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:43 pm

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by colwillys » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:34 pm

;) :lol:

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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by pup_picker » Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:33 pm

DHalladay wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:18 pm
Can't wait to see photos of that coin!
+1

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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:34 pm

Further study at higher magnification shows split serif hub doubling on STATES.
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by DHalladay » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:24 pm

Photos please?
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:00 am

1921 P VAM 67 VLDS Reverse
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:03 am

1921 P VAM 67 VLDS Obverse
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:07 am

Die break top right leaf
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:11 am

More reverse photos
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:13 am

Die gouge left of eyelid (die marker?)
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:21 am

More obverse photos
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by RogerRock » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:30 am

More obverse photos
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $

Post by lured_in_again » Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:25 am

Reminds me a lot of 1891 o Vam 8a.... lots of breaks and displaced fields.

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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $ with photos

Post by DHalladay » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:52 pm

What did J.R. say?
Looks just like the one I have!
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $ with photos

Post by messydesk » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:05 pm

DHalladay wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:52 pm
What did J.R. say?
Looks just like the one I have!
Sounds like he just said VAM 67 VLDS.
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Re: NEW R-7 Retained Cud 1921 $ with photos

Post by vampicker » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:21 pm

I did just call this a VLDS and didn't split the listing. I don't recall my exact wording, but I think this is one I'd want to see with and without all the crack/break pattern to generate a distinct VAM stage listing

But that doesn't subtract from the present example being cool to look at
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