1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr transfer

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1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr transfer

Post by Mike7E » Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:58 pm

1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die with possible letter transfer.

I made a list of every 1888-P VAM with the different reverses and can't match this to any of them. Help is appreciated.
M7Ea Date C3_LE5_ 1888-P.jpg
M7Ea Date C3_LE5_ 1888-P.jpg (112.42 KiB) Viewed 924 times
Date slanted with last 8 far from rim. Date lateral position is normal: C3/LE5
M7Eb 1888-P 1.jpg
M7Eb 1888-P 1.jpg (108.71 KiB) Viewed 924 times
M7Ec 1888-P dbl bottom 1 (2).jpg
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M7Ed 1888-P First 8.jpg
M7Ed 1888-P First 8.jpg (102.88 KiB) Viewed 924 times
M7Ee 1888-P Dbl Date Rt Star 6.jpg
M7Ee 1888-P Dbl Date Rt Star 6.jpg (106.16 KiB) Viewed 924 times
1 Doubled slightly both sides of vertical shaft, bottom of upper crossbar may be strike doubling, bottom lower crossbar doubled.
All 8s Doubled both bottom outsides of top loop, slight doubling both mid-outsides of lower loop. Third 8 Appears to be inverted as noted on many 1888 obverses and has a broken bottom left side. The three eights show similar doubling to each other and per the VAM-10 page this is strike doubling. There is a progression with the doubling of the outside left edge of top loops becoming wider as the 8s go to the right.

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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by Mike7E » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:02 pm

M7Ef 1888-P ear arrows.jpg
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M7Eg 1888-P ear.jpg
M7Eg 1888-P ear.jpg (120.3 KiB) Viewed 923 times
Doubled right side of inner ear fill and bottom lobe, small die scratch starts in hair above ear and goes through to bottom opening. Scratch can just be seen with 10X loupe if you know to look but too slight to be listed.
M7Eh 1888-P RI.jpg
M7Eh 1888-P RI.jpg (125.62 KiB) Viewed 923 times
M7Ei 1888-P R.jpg
M7Ei 1888-P R.jpg (116.99 KiB) Viewed 923 times
R and I in PLURIBUS doubled at bottoms, shelf doubling front of inside leg of R and base of I?
M7Ej 1888-P Clash1.jpg
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There appears to be a smattering of raised metal about where the tick mark of the n would be.
Clash at similar position to VAM-11A however ear of this coin is not doubled heavily on outside edge.

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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by Mike7E » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:08 pm

M7Ek 1888-P Hair Vee.jpg
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Hair Vee has rounded mark, possibly edge of s

Reverse: Doubled reverse with doubled and tripled wreath leaves.
M7El 1888-P Wing neck gap.jpg
M7El 1888-P Wing neck gap.jpg (107.01 KiB) Viewed 923 times
Doubled left wing at wing neck gap, no polishing lines.
Left Star slight doubling bottom left and slight line towards rim
M7Em1888-P NI.jpg
M7Em1888-P NI.jpg (126.25 KiB) Viewed 923 times
Lower inside of letters doubled in NITED STATES O
M7En 1881-P ER.jpg
M7En 1881-P ER.jpg (105.85 KiB) Viewed 923 times
M7Eo 1881-P N in ONE.jpg
M7Eo 1881-P N in ONE.jpg (117.4 KiB) Viewed 923 times
Slight inside doubling MER CA (C slightly doubled at back, IC at top) AR in DOLLAR and NE in ONE

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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by Mike7E » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:42 pm

M7Ep 1888-P TA.jpg
M7Ep 1888-P TA.jpg (102.78 KiB) Viewed 921 times
‘TA’ doubling, ‘In’ heavily doubled, ‘God we trust’ doubled.
M7e 1888-P Clash wing.jpg
M7e 1888-P Clash wing.jpg (103.16 KiB) Viewed 921 times
Clash at wing would extend to right edge of n foot, light and no apparent clash between left wing and wreath.
M7Er 1888-P left leg.jpg
M7Er 1888-P left leg.jpg (105.42 KiB) Viewed 921 times
Polishing lines eagles left leg and tailfeather area. Wreath clear, slight doubling bottom of tail feather?
M7Eu 1881-P Spitting eagle.jpg
M7Eu 1881-P Spitting eagle.jpg (83.19 KiB) Viewed 921 times
Another spitting eagle, or just PMD? Coin took a few hits.
1888-P_VAM-37_Dbld_Wreath.jpg
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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by Mike7E » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:47 pm

M7Ev 1888-P tripled leaves 3rd cluster left.jpg
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This coin - top right leaf tripled inside in addition to doubled middle leaf vs VAM-37
1888-P_VAM-38_Tripled_Wreath_Leaves.jpg
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This coin - top right leaf in cluster tripled inside, left leaf not doubled like VAM-38
M7Ew 1888-P tripled leaves 4th cluster left.jpg
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M7e 1888-P Obverse.jpg
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M7E 1881-P Reverse.jpg
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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by Mhomei » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:26 pm

Did you eliminate the V35 family?

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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by Mike7E » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:44 pm

Hi, Thanks for feedback.
Yes, looked at that pair very close. Unfortunately not many photos on pages.
1888-P_VAM-35_Dbld_STATES.jpg
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The doubling at base of TA nearly identical but the In on my posted coin has much heavier doubling.
Date LE3_RE4 Morgan 1888-P PCGS VAM-35a MS66+ obv HA (2).jpg
Date LE3_RE4 Morgan 1888-P PCGS VAM-35a MS66+ obv HA (2).jpg (81.97 KiB) Viewed 906 times
I found a PCGS MS66+ CAC on the Heritage Auction website (Listed as VAM-35A by Heritage, NMOH). The date per VAMWorld page is "Date at left edge of normal position." I blew up the date on the 66 and it is LE3/RE4 so different position than on posted coin. The full coin reverse also looks like there are lines in the wreath.

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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by Mhomei » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:40 pm

shoot messydesk a PM
HE might still have the DC

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Re: 1888-P Slanted Date Doubled 1, All Stars Doubled, Doubled Reverse with tripled leaves, clashed die possible ltr tran

Post by messydesk » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:15 pm

Your coin would not be VAM 35. Leroy said the date is at the left edge of normal on that one, and yours is dead nuts normal.
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