Trouble placing an 1883-O

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Trouble placing an 1883-O

Post by madbirder » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:46 pm

I've got an 1883-O I just can't place. There is a fair amount of clashing but not reverse E sadly but there is obverse e and st clash. The neck clash looks like it's been polished away so not much help there. The m/m has a line through the bottom and is tilted left and doesn't match any of the listed VAMs for that m/m. 1 in date slightly doubled top left. Date slightly slanted. Any clues would be grateful as I'm clueless at the moment. There is also some polishing in the wreath.
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Re: 1883-O

Post by madbirder » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:47 pm

more pics
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Re: 1883-O

Post by madbirder » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:48 pm

a few more pics
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Re: Trouble placing an 1883-O

Post by madbirder » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:14 pm

Found similar polishing in the wreath to VAM-15 but the mint mark doesn't look right. VAM-14 is the closest to the right mint mark. Also found some doubling in the Obverse legend and stars. Again not sure how much of this is relevant.
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Re: Trouble placing an 1883-O

Post by raynat3 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:14 pm

Well that appears to be the same die pair that Nate sent in a few years ago and LVA called it VAM-1. I thought those pictures and notes were on the VAM 1 page, maybe someone took them off thinking that it was not important information or maybe I’m just mistaken on what was there.

Nice pics though.

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Re: Trouble placing an 1883-O

Post by madbirder » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:46 pm

raynat3 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:14 pm
Well that appears to be the same die pair that Nate sent in a few years ago and LVA called it VAM-1. I thought those pictures and notes were on the VAM 1 page, maybe someone took them off thinking that it was not important information or maybe I’m just mistaken on what was there.

Nice pics though.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't look at VAM-1 as there was a lot going on with my coin and I was looking for a tilted MM I didn't think to look at a Normal Die.

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Re: Trouble placing an 1883-O

Post by raynat3 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:03 pm

We were both surprised with a VAM-1 also. If there is truly letter transfer in the hair from we trust it would get listed differently. Just not sure if it is there though. The gouge in the base of T in Liberty is the other pup.

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