Vam designation "JOH-23" 1921-D

[Windycity]

So apparently I have not been paying attention but can someone explain the "JOH" designation? I was looking at the die break page for the 1921-D Morgan and the last few listings do not have traditional VAM numbers but rather "JOH" numbers.

[sheatown1]

JOH numbers were assigned by Rob Joyce and late Jim Hart thus JOH via 1st letters in last names. They were 21-d's not up to new VAM #'s but able to be recognized for researching purposes as I understand. Fun With 21 book gives a list of their research #'s as of that point in time.

[messydesk]

Since the book was written, many have had VAM numbers assigned due to scribbling scratches, or later die stages being found and determined to be listable. There's a list of these on the "Fun with 1921" page. If you have one that has not had a VAM number assigned, it may be eligible, especially if it has scribbling scratches.

[Windycity]

So my coin is a match to the die crack listing and it seem to be substantial enough for listing. Don't see any sribbling.

[messydesk]

Close-up picture? Leroy's standards have shifted to include more trivial breaks than he did 15 years ago.

[Windycity]

[shortnock]

Nice photos. Fun with '21 is a fun time. Good reference material there.

[Geseas]

I don't believe it is a JOH-23. The crack from the first 1 in '1921' to denticle indicates to me it may be a coin from the 1921-D Vam H series.

[Windycity]

Not the H series, no scribbles and the breaks are different... particularly on reverse.