1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by vamsterdam » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:08 pm

i think people are waiting for you to research it and tell them what you figured out. go to morgan vams by date, then click on 1899o and then start researching. ALL morgan dollars are vams, as someone previously stated. we don't get paid to attribute other people's coins.

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by vampicker » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:09 pm

You've got a bunch of secondary markers and not much that would get listed otherwise. There's no apparent doubling or repunching. No die breaks or even a crack pattern to tie it to later stages of varieties that are listed. That leaves you with date and mintmark position. The date is 'almost near' but would usually get called 'normal'. The mintmark borders on being within normal tolerance. If viewed that way, you've got a VAM 1 marriage. If you view this as 'slightly high', then VAM 43 is more likely. The lines in the wing neck gap are similar, so it may actually be an earlier stage of this. If this crossed my desk I'd be mostly likely to call it VAM 43.
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by fogie » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:33 pm

Correction - all Morgan and Peace dollars are VAMs (almost). Yes your dollar is a VAM but figuring out what VAM it is is the hard part.

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by messydesk » Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:54 pm

Start with the date and mint mark. The date is in the normal position, and the mint mark seems to be slightly high. I don't see any repunched digits in the date and don't see a repunched mint mark. There might be some doubling on the left wreath, but maybe not. Other marks you are posting are just die polishing lines.
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:14 am

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:34 am

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:19 am

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:32 pm

Weak, but I think there are a few missing, so I sent a few more pictures. Thank you.

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:28 pm

Please, Now tell me how to find it, this coin still vam43?

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by messydesk » Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:42 am

Still VAM 43 by my reckoning.
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:27 am

Thanks

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by Albannach » Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:01 pm

I see doubling.

Always start the journey with date and Mint mark, to start narrowing the search...

What you are calling a gouge, Leroy may call a scratch, depends on the day.

I see doubling Obv and rev.

What do you think you have there? VAM wise...

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:32 pm

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Gouge line, not a scratch.
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:11 pm

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DOUBLE mint mark, no 1 DOUBLE.
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:39 pm

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Gouge line, is not polishing lines.
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:28 am

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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

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Gouge line is not a scratch.
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:16 am

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Vam1,vam43 ? it's hard to admit :(
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Re: 1899O,morgen gouge on Eyes

Post by James LEE » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:36 pm

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