1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

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colwillys
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1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by colwillys » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:42 pm

One VAM 58A was killed and NOW we have a New Discovery Coin with finger gouges VAM 58A . :lol: :D :o
Please some help with new page set up :mrgreen: . Another for the 21 group to hunt down or try and kill . :popcorn:
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colwillys
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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by colwillys » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:05 pm

Finger gouges at ST of STATES . Gouges show very sharp . Thank you Dennis .

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by PacificWR » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:22 am

Congrats on your new DC. I'll setup the new page for you.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by DHalladay » Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:56 pm

Congrats on the new discovery!
(But darn! It means the date set just increased to 453 coins.)
When in doubt... don't.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by PacificWR » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:20 pm

New VAM-58A page is all setup.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by Longstrider » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:34 pm

@colwillys Way to go.🐍

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by vamsterdam » Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:25 pm

Someone has overwritten the old v58a and put in the vams eliminated, so no one can tell what the old one was and what it was changed to. Why?

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by PacificWR » Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:37 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:25 pm
Someone has overwritten the old v58a and put in the vams eliminated, so no one can tell what the old one was and what it was changed to. Why?
The old VAM-58A page is still there. All you have to do is click on the view history tab and select August 13.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by ljs123 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:36 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:25 pm
Someone has overwritten the old v58a and put in the vams eliminated, so no one can tell what the old one was and what it was changed to. Why?
The old 58A was listed as a clashed n. There were several thoughts floating around the old VW discussion board of what VAM the 58A obverse matched. When I found a VAM-70 (single clashed obverse), I checked it against the old 58A (double clashed obverse).It was clear that it was the same obverse and reverse. I also knew that the obverse letter transfer was the old I clash and not the listed n clash. Also the 3AR was the same obv and rev.
Going one step further, I recognized the old 70 obverse as the same as the 24B2.

So I packed up all the coins and sent them to LVA. This lead to a few eliminations including 58A being incorporated into 58. Now a finger feed gouge comes along and so now there is a 58A again. Same, but different. :lol:

Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, please ask.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by LateDateMorganGuy » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:53 pm

Lee, you know this, but it is still the wild wild west of VAMming out there. But my coin has...................

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by vamsterdam » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:14 pm

When i go to vam 58a, I don’t see what it was before. Only the new discovery. I only remember vam 58a for an I clash, not an n clash.

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Re: 1921-P VAM 58A New Discovery

Post by ljs123 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:11 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:14 pm
When i go to vam 58a, I don’t see what it was before. Only the new discovery. I only remember vam 58a for an I clash, not an n clash.

Originally, 58A was listed as a clashed n. It had a double clashed obverse and a single clashed reverse.
VAM-24B had a clashed I. The 24B obverse was then placed with a different reverse. That new die pair had a clashed I obverse, no clash on the reverse, and was listed as VAM-70. When 70 clashed again, it created a double clashed obverse and a single clashed reverse. The clash on the reverse was located at the n. So when it was listed as a new VAM, it was listed as VAM-58A for an n clash.

For years on the old VW, there was speculation of the relationship 58A had with other VAMs.

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