1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

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1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:00 pm

I bought this 1888-O VAM-5 PCGS XF45 AOH and would like to have confirmation if attribution by PCGS is correct.

I know this is quite rare and how i saw it at 200$ i didn't think twice and grabbed it.
By auction pics attached here i can't say if attribution is correct. Date position seems ok.

Thanks
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by Vam-mysterio » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:20 pm

Double check it
Against vam 24
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:23 pm

Vam-mysterio wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:20 pm
Double check it
Against vam 24
Thanks for reply

Maybe the height of the last 8 leads me to lean towards VAM-24 but i'm not sure

Do you think It's VAM-24??

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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by Vam-mysterio » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:41 pm

Can you post
Close up pictures?
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:03 pm

Vam-mysterio wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:41 pm
Can you post
Close up pictures?
No sorry
I don't have the coin in my hand yet.
The coin has been shipped but it hasn't arrived yet

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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:33 pm

Finally received the coin and even with close up pics and also due to the dirt on the coin, i'm not able to confirm myself if this is correctly attributed by PCGS as VAM-5

Wish that @Vam-mysterio or anyone with more experienced eyes than me, will be able to help me

Here are some pics
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:35 pm

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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:38 pm

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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by Vam-mysterio » Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:56 pm

Can you post a picture of the full date
Vam 5 ‘s date is slanted with the 1
Closer to the rim,
Are able to see the die scratches at
Leave top kernels as shown in vam 5 page?
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by Vam-mysterio » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:00 pm

I strongly believe you have a vam 18
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:11 pm

Vam-mysterio wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:00 pm
I strongly believe you have a vam 18
Thanks @Vam-mysterio
With these pics maybe i think attribution is correct. Please le me know your opinion.Thanks

Here are pics for VAM-5 confirmation

and in next post i will send pups for VAM-18
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:18 pm

And here are other 2 pics for pups of VAM-18 (second 8)
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by Vam-mysterio » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:43 pm

You have a Vam 18,

On the vam 5
The last 8 on the date is waaay high ,
and you can clearly see that the 1
Is closer to the rim
Hope that helps
By the way
Vam 34 is the key vam to the oval o set
Followed by vam 5 as a very close second contender
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by Vam-mysterio » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:06 pm

Hey maybe
JR or JB or even Ash
Can back me up on this one
Let’s wait and see what they think
I know sometimes you get an answer
You wasn’t prepared for
But hey pcgs guarantees attribution !
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vampicker » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:21 pm

Is there a lump on the neck at the edge of the hair curl a little above the initial?
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:55 pm

Vam-mysterio wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:06 pm
Hey maybe
JR or JB or even Ash
Can back me up on this one
Let’s wait and see what they think
I know sometimes you get an answer
You wasn’t prepared for
But hey pcgs guarantees attribution !
Thanks Vam-mysterio.
I know VAM-34 and VAM-5 are keys for oval O set and these are the only ones i need...
That's why i bought it
vampicker wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:21 pm
Is there a lump on the neck at the edge of the hair curl a little above the initial?
Thanks JR @vampicker for help
I couldn't make good pics because i don't have know daylight...
But here are some pics....i think i don't see any lump.....except if you don't refer to what I circled in red in the last pic
Tomorrow morning i will try to take better pics
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vampicker » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:18 pm

The lump isn't there. That takes out VAM 18. Are there a couple of little die scratches just under the back of the nostril?

They look like this....
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vampicker » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:25 pm

An FYI for anyone else following this thread - VAMs 18 and 5 share the 'exact' same reverse.
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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:57 pm

vampicker wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:18 pm
The lump isn't there. That takes out VAM 18. Are there a couple of little die scratches just under the back of the nostril?

They look like this....
These are really hard to pic with my poor equipment but will try tomorrow morning with good daylight that always helps me.

Now it's time to go to bed for me ..... it's almost 1 am here in Italy :lol: :lol:

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Re: 1888-O oval O VAM-5 confirmation

Post by vincar73 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:09 pm

mystery revealed ???

VAM-2???
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