Carson City not seen everyday?

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JackBnimble01
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Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by JackBnimble01 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:57 am

Thought it was kinda cool!
Super rare!
Pcgs says 275.00? LOL
Cancel the value!!!
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Re: Something not seen everyday?

Post by Tekkie1 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:20 am

That's really cool!

As for value, per forum rules, this should be asked in the "What's it worth" board. ;)

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Re: Something not seen everyday?

Post by ...kenny » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am

is it die failure or planchet? Holder says strike 1 then strike 2... :lol:
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my.........Ah........Uhm........something, something, something..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by vampicker » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:07 pm

Very cool mated pair. Don't think PCGS has a price guide for errors. I'd say that number you saw is for generic example of the date.
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Re: Something not seen everyday?

Post by RogerB » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:33 pm

...kenny wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am
is it die failure or planchet? Holder says strike 1 then strike 2... :lol:
Planchet defect. Likely created when an inclusion of copper oxide (scale)was rolled into a strip, and a blank cut. The label is misleading in that the coin was struck normally and fell apart sometime after bagging.

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by vamsterdam » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:44 pm

isn't this the northern nevada coins specimen?

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by vampicker » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:16 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:44 pm
isn't this the northern nevada coins specimen?
It would be nearly criminal if they took it out of the GSA holder
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Re: Something not seen everyday?

Post by vampicker » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:19 pm

RogerB wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:33 pm
...kenny wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am
is it die failure or planchet? Holder says strike 1 then strike 2... :lol:
Planchet defect. Likely created when an inclusion of copper oxide (scale)was rolled into a strip, and a blank cut. The label is misleading in that the coin was struck normally and fell apart sometime after bagging.
This was clearly split after strike. There's no stretching of elements towards the broken edge
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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by DHalladay » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:25 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:44 pm
isn't this the northern nevada coins specimen?

Yes, and for nearly 20 years.
The combination of Series 20 on the insert tag and 7-digit serial numbers (3450668 and 3450669) means they were graded before February 2002, which is when PCGS switched to 8-digit serial numbers.
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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by JackBnimble01 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:41 pm

vampicker wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:16 pm
vamsterdam wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:44 pm
isn't this the northern nevada coins specimen?
It would be nearly criminal if they took it out of the GSA holder
Agreed vamsterdam
I say they should go directly to jail don’t collect 200.00, no get out of jail free card!!

Has anyone ever seen another similar
Coin?
Glad there was NO quality control at the CC mint that day, and that it survived all these years later!
Great piece of Morgan history!
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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by lured_in_again » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 pm

Not pushing their web site, but I found the "error gallery" fascinating, https://northernnevadacoin.com/error-gallery/

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by vampicker » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:02 pm

I can't swear to this thing having been in a GSA hard pack. I seem to recall them using an image of this with the GSA holder as part of their advertising in years past, but that may have just been marketing. I think the only other Morgan error that compares is the full mirror brockage piece John Dannruether had on display at multiple shows a few years ago.
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Re: Something not seen everyday?

Post by RogerB » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:38 pm

vampicker wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:19 pm
RogerB wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:33 pm
...kenny wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am
is it die failure or planchet? Holder says strike 1 then strike 2... :lol:
Planchet defect. Likely created when an inclusion of copper oxide (scale)was rolled into a strip, and a blank cut. The label is misleading in that the coin was struck normally and fell apart sometime after bagging.
This was clearly split after strike. There's no stretching of elements towards the broken edge
An interesting side note is that there are many complaints of nickels breaking during use or when counted. The Philadelphia Mint was buying blanks from contractors including Wharton's business.

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by vampicker » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:09 pm

Yup, I've seen examples. Usually when a coin is split after strike, it's an extreme form of lamination and you get an obverse and reverse mated pair. This version is FAR more rare.
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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by blh74 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:00 am

lured_in_again wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 pm
Not pushing their web site, but I found the "error gallery" fascinating, https://northernnevadacoin.com/error-gallery/
They have a nice collection of errors. I bought a nice UNC. 1882 CC from Morganman. It is a 2 error coin. A partial collar strike with a struck through piece of wire on the reverse.

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by JackBnimble01 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:29 am

Would love to see it?
How much did it set u back?

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by blh74 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:20 am

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Re: Carson City not seen everyday?

Post by Namvet69 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:29 am

Sure would've been nice for them to use a special holder for both parts to be displayed together, which would also serve to keep them together. Peace Roy

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