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Longstrider
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by Longstrider » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:35 pm
WOW!!! Those squiggles are killer. Not to piss anyone off but that should be an Elite 30 or Top 50, in my opinion. Say, does the top 50 and elite 30 ever change? I know the John Roberts does. Thanks.

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RogerRock
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by RogerRock » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:29 am
Good eye Tom! Looks like a thread impression to me.
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by RogerRock » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:58 am
Longstrider wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:35 pm
WOW!!! Those squiggles are killer. Not to piss anyone off but that should be an Elite 30 or Top 50, in my opinion. Say, does the top 50 and elite 30 ever change? I know the John Roberts does. Thanks.
Your reference to "squiggles" is reminiscent of my recent 1923 D VAM 1BF Revision 7-13-20. Die crack through diagonal of N in IN and rim to rim die crack at Y (LIBERTY) with displaced field break, both exhibit zigzag squiggly signature cracks.
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Longstrider
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by Longstrider » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:57 pm
Are they die cracks?
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by messydesk » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:21 pm
Longstrider wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:35 pm
WOW!!! Those squiggles are killer. Not to piss anyone off but that should be an Elite 30 or Top 50, in my opinion. Say, does the top 50 and elite 30 ever change? I know the John Roberts does. Thanks.
Chase lists do not change except for corrections to errors or expansion to include other die pairs with the same money side as a coin listed for features on only one side.
If you like that coin, as many do, add it to your own want list. The lists that have been established are suggestions, not requirements or restrictions.
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RogerRock
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by RogerRock » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:28 pm
Longstrider wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:57 pm
Are they die cracks?
YES- However,LDS die crack thru N (IN) shows die break at rim and EDS rim to rim die crack at Y (LIBERTY) shows displaced field break. Understand, the die crack itself becomes a die break if and when a progression occurs that widens and deepens in the die itself. Rim to rim die cracks can progress into retained cuds when the field inside the break becomes sunken (in the die) and extends onto the adjacent rim. This retained cud appears as an uplifted plateau on the coin's rim and field.
Just wanted to share the unusual squiggly die cracks on both sides of this 1923 D VAM 1BF obverse.
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pup_picker
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by pup_picker » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:20 pm
is this the vam that was purported to be counterfeited. something seems really familiar with it but it has been several years it seems. i was even thinking about it a few weeks ago.