1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

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Jimbob87
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1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

Post by Jimbob87 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:12 am

Cleaned one has doubled liberty. Other one has small eye spike and doubled mintmark. Wasn't able to find vam that fits.
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Vam-mysterio
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Re: 1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

Post by Vam-mysterio » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:50 am

More close up pictures of obverse
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tbconcrete
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Re: 1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

Post by tbconcrete » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:37 am

Top coin is V39/99 Reverse and second one is V5,7, or 46. Good luck.

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Re: 1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

Post by tbconcrete » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:39 am

Top one could be V 35,93, 19 or 74.

RogerB
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Re: 1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

Post by RogerB » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:49 pm

The "r" had to be broken on the motto logo punch for a master die.

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Re: 1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

Post by tbconcrete » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:01 pm

Roger,

SF had some very interesting guys working at that mint the first few years. I am very surprised they never tried
to " improve " on the 4th star or the R in TRUST. They did about everything else to the dies. The working die is recessed and it seems it could have been worked on. No sure the relation but most, if not all, UN- Engraved wing feathers do not have a broken R. Most all broken R dies were engraved at the SF mint. They were right there working it over ??
I bet my friend Lew can add more than I can. tim

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Re: 1878 S Broken 'r' in trust, broken 4th star on both coins.

Post by lewisr2 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:05 am

Over the years I have attempted to keep track of what 78-S VAMs had a 4th right star not broken, which 4th star was missing the point, and the others with the broken 4th star.
My current list has full 4th star as VAMs 5, 6, 10, 16, 18, 22, 65, 77, 100, 109, and 111 – 18 has a chipped point and 22 is doubled.
My list with missing point are VAMs 1G die 2,17, 17A, 17B, 17C, 67, 71, 78, 86 die 3, and 92.

Also have a somewhat incomplete list for r of trust with triangle r and almost completely broken r of trust.
Triangle r of trust – 48, 84, 91, 91A, 105
Almost completely broke r – 19, 19A, 19B, 74 and 74A.
VAM 9 is a broken r but I would say an r that has been filled.

Additions and corrections are welcome.

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