lost and found
lost and found
1904-O VAM14. John Coxe, Mark Witkower and I spent some time at the last Long Beach show working on this one. Identical obverse die used for the 1904-O V3 BUT this one had been clashed and repolished. It also has a different reverse die. @LateDateMorganGuy , @PacificWR Please post to the 1904-O VAM 14 page.
Last edited by fogie on Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:26 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Wow! That's a big deal. At least for me.
Thanks for the great detective work.
Thanks for the great detective work.
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Great study and detailed photography! 

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fogie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:42 am1904-O VAM14. John Coxe, Mark Witkower and I spent some time at the last Long Beach show working on this one. Identical obverse die used for the 1904-O V3 BUT this one had been clashed and repolished. It also has a different reverse die. @LateDateMorganGuy , @PacificWR Please post to the 1904-O VAM 14 page.RBF1904-OV14-1.jpgRBF1904-OV14-2.jpgRBF1904-OV14-3.jpgRBF1904-OV14-4.jpgRBF1904-OV14-5.jpg
Did you check this coin against a VAM-29?
The obverse clash looks just like the G clash of VAM-29.
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Sharp eye LJS. Those same markers are on my VAM-29, with exception of doubling of "04."
I've got to get some shut eye, but I'll be back and can provide photos if needed.
I've got to get some shut eye, but I'll be back and can provide photos if needed.
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Looks like VAM-29 is a duplicate listing of VAM-14.
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Maybe not what everyone would do, but I treat the later listings with more reliable PUPs as the go-to VAM for a certain die pair, rather than earlier listed VAMs with little to no PUPs listed or plated. In this case, when LVA listed the VAM-14, he was not listing "ticks" of clashed letters.
People can call the die pairs and associated stages/states whatever they want when they apply the little white stickers.
In my work, this coin is a VAM-29 and VAM-14 is a red-haired stepchild.
People can call the die pairs and associated stages/states whatever they want when they apply the little white stickers.
In my work, this coin is a VAM-29 and VAM-14 is a red-haired stepchild.
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well burst my bubble! Good call - this is in fact the VAM29 and we still do not have a VAM14.
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And this is why I don't think it's a good idea to make the VAM number part of the image. If the VAM turns out to be a duplicate or gets eliminated, the photo becomes wrong and confusing to anyone without intimate knowledge of the VAM's history when it's moved to the right page.
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All good on the VAM front. Thanks Brent for all you do.