1921-P D1 VAMs 1BG>1P>38A?

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Kissov
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1921-P D1 VAMs 1BG>1P>38A?

Post by Kissov » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:31 pm

Here is an example of a 21P D1 Reverse with 1BG's scribbles and 1P's "F" Feed Finger Gouge.

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It also has the scratches at the left wing neck gap as in 1BG.

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There is a suggestion of a gouge from the right wing tip to the denticles.

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This example also shows tripled left stars and a hint of doubling on the cap.



So does this mean 1P and 3BG are dead, leaving 38A? I'm not sure 38 fits into this menagerie.

DHalladay
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Re: 1921-P D1 VAMs 1BG>1P>38A?

Post by DHalladay » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:38 am

I have a 1BG and a 1P, and I agree they are the same VAM.

I have a 38 (but not a 38A); I have found nothing to make me believe it is related to the other two.
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Kissov
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Re: 1921-P D1 VAMs 1BG>1P>38A?

Post by Kissov » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:55 pm

DHalladay wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:38 am
I have a 1BG and a 1P, and I agree they are the same VAM.

I have a 38 (but not a 38A); I have found nothing to make me believe it is related to the other two.
Thanks for the confirmation.

I agree on the 38. I have a 38 and it is not like 1BG or 1P. I don't have a 38A but on the surface it appears to be part of the 1BG-1P group.

DHalladay
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Re: 1921-P D1 VAMs 1BG>1P>38A?

Post by DHalladay » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:14 pm

There's a big "but" in my attributions that I need to point out: All 3 coins are self-attributed, which means my 1BG and my 1P could actually be the same. I attribute by scrolling through the VAMworld Scribbles Guide, but I don't always start at the beginning of the guide; sometimes I start at the end and work my way to the front. And once I find a match, I don't keep looking. I attributed my 1BG and 1P five months apart, and it is entirely possible that my trips through the Scribbles Guide to identify them did not happen in the same sequence.

In order for us to kill one of the coins – or two if 38A is also a possibility – we would have to (ideally) get the Discovery pieces and show them to LVA.
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Kissov
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Re: 1921-P D1 VAMs 1BG>1P>38A?

Post by Kissov » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:25 pm

I use a similar approach to the scribbles guide, but I usually start at the bottom if there is any doubling on the stars or date.

I went straight to the feed finger page on mine. Had I gone to the scribbles page I would have hit 1BG (working from the bottom), but the gouge at "F" was very obvious. The scribbles page photo for 1P doesn't show much.

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