I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

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bhinkle
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I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by bhinkle » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:05 am

I thought I remebered, that I had an 1878 S, with a lot of cool
diagonal die gouges, on both of the eagle's wings and two strong
die gouges, between the upper legs and I have been trying to find
it for about a year.
I finally found it and am I glad, that I wasn't dreaming,.
It was hard for me to see the die gouges, with a loop and I kept
passing it by.
In addition to the cool diagonal die gouges, on both wings, I think
I see a die chip near the top of the die gouges, on the eagle's left
wing.
It is an 1878 S NGCMS61.
I think I checked all of the vams, with die gouges in the wings and
I don't think I saw any that matched mine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Bert
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1878 S NGCMS61 OBV.jpg
1878 S NGCMS61 OBV.jpg (167.17 KiB) Viewed 1207 times
1878 S NGCMS61 REV.jpg
1878 S NGCMS61 REV.jpg (182.99 KiB) Viewed 1207 times
Sat Feb 08 16-23-09 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-23-09 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (130.9 KiB) Viewed 1207 times
Sat Feb 08 16-24-12 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-24-12 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (125.11 KiB) Viewed 1207 times
Sat Feb 08 16-27-48 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-27-48 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (112.17 KiB) Viewed 1207 times

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by bhinkle » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:09 am

More pics
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Sat Feb 08 16-27-48 1878 S NGCMS61 DIE CHIP.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-27-48 1878 S NGCMS61 DIE CHIP.jpg (114.45 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Sat Feb 08 16-31-07 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-31-07 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (131.47 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Sat Feb 08 16-50-09 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-50-09 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (116.25 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Sat Feb 08 16-50-43 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-50-43 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (131.13 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Sat Feb 08 16-51-37 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-51-37 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (98.81 KiB) Viewed 1206 times

bhinkle
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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by bhinkle » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:11 am

Three more pics
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Sat Feb 08 16-53-20 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-53-20 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (126.29 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Sat Feb 08 16-53-56 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-53-56 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (142.66 KiB) Viewed 1206 times
Sat Feb 08 17-51-14  1878 S NGCMS61 2.jpg
Sat Feb 08 17-51-14 1878 S NGCMS61 2.jpg (120.78 KiB) Viewed 1206 times

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by 78-sLongnock » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:46 am

Vam 15

bhinkle
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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by bhinkle » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:22 am

WOW! Pete, that was fast.
I thought I looked at all of the gouge's in the wing vams,
Everything matches. THANK YOU
I saw, that the right wing pic, on the van 15 page, didn't have, what looks like a die chip, in it.
Do you think it looks like a die chip, on mine?
Here is another picture of that area.
Thank you again, Bert
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Sat Feb 08 16-29-25 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-29-25 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (125.14 KiB) Viewed 1193 times
Sat Feb 08 16-27-48 1878 S NGCMS61 DIE CHIP.jpg
Sat Feb 08 16-27-48 1878 S NGCMS61 DIE CHIP.jpg (114.45 KiB) Viewed 1193 times

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by PacificWR » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:05 am

Nice VAM-15.

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by Flat-Chested » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:58 pm

Nice Vam, how many of these are graded by ANACS, NGC and PCGS?

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by tbconcrete » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm

15,80, and 89 share this reverse. 15 & 80 are common. 89 is the stopper. Did you check your coin against V80, Bert. I couldn't see the obverse well enough to VAM it. Nice pictures as always, tiny

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by bhinkle » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:30 pm

Thank you Tim,
Sorry it took me so long to reply.
I was just thinking it was a vam 15 and didn't know, about the
vams 80 and 89.
I don't see the diagonal line, in front of the eye, like the vam 80.
Does your vam 89 have, what looks like a die chip, at the top
of the die gouges, on the eagle's left wing, like mine?
What about, what looks like a die scratch, running through the ribbon
and bow, on the reverse.
here are some pictures, please let me know, if you want to see any other
areas. Thanks again, Bert
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Sun Feb 23 05-54-55 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 05-54-55 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (128.24 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 05-49-10 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 05-49-10 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (122.03 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 06-04-40 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 06-04-40 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (125.29 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 05-58-46 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 05-58-46 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (124.77 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 06-41-12 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 06-41-12 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (106.61 KiB) Viewed 1099 times

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by bhinkle » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:33 pm

More pictures
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Sun Feb 23 06-50-02 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 06-50-02 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (121.47 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 06-51-38 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 06-51-38 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (120.16 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 06-52-58 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 06-52-58 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (123.1 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 06-53-30 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 06-53-30 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (128.87 KiB) Viewed 1099 times
Sun Feb 23 05-53-30 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg
Sun Feb 23 05-53-30 1878 S NGCMS61.jpg (113.6 KiB) Viewed 1099 times

bhinkle
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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by bhinkle » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:35 pm

One more picture
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Sat Feb 08 17-51-14  1878 S NGCMS61 2.jpg
Sat Feb 08 17-51-14 1878 S NGCMS61 2.jpg (120.78 KiB) Viewed 1099 times

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Re: I need help, with 1878 S diagonal wing die gouges

Post by tbconcrete » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:17 pm

That snooger in the nostril and the chip on the cheek indicates a V80. Looks like die wear is in play here. Not a V89. I'd say V80. TDITD though. tim

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