Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

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Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by Windycity » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:39 pm

Take a look at this 1921-D that appears to be slightly off-center - note wider rim on lower obverse and upper reverse and note rim error on upper reverse. Assume this is an off-center strike but looking for confirmation from the experts.

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by Geseas » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:45 pm

May I be the first to say, Beautiful Coin Thats about all
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by DHalladay » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:34 am

Double struck in collar?
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by RogerRock » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:21 am

Obverse shows misaligned die. Reverse is interesting - possible partial collar. Partial collar must be
confirmed by viewing edge in question .
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by messydesk » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:02 am

Uncentered broadstrike, perhaps. Need to see the edge.
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by CascadeChris » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:18 am

messydesk wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:02 am
Uncentered broadstrike, perhaps. Need to see the edge.
I'm seeing a possible tilted partial perhaps
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by Windycity » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:27 pm

Here are images of the edge...

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by collectinsince65 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:09 pm

Very cool.
I'll learn on this one.

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by messydesk » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:45 pm

If that's all the collar there is, I'm going with uncentered broadstrike. That's a major score for a Morgan. I just did a search on Heritage, and they have 5 in their history. Two are AU 1921-Ss, each selling for over $400, and they have a trace of collar on them.
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by jrfaust » Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:46 pm

Incredible! :shock: WOW! What a awesome find! :D Super cool!
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by vamsterdam » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:07 pm

it's a partial collar.

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by colwillys » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:20 pm

Still looks like put of collar strike .. I know their is a slight reeding .. Beautiful coin .

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by messydesk » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:27 pm

vamsterdam wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:07 pm
it's a partial collar.
Being that extreme, and having the distorted letters and stars that a broadstrike does, would you price it about the same as an uncentered broadstrike?
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by vamsterdam » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:32 pm

I would not price it the same as a broadstrike. I have seen plenty of tilted partial collars that cause letter distortion too. it's about the smallest partial collar I have ever seen though.

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by CascadeChris » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:26 pm

Um, wow :shock:

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by Longstrider » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:38 pm

Amazing find. Well done. John🐍

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by Windycity » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:59 pm

Picked this up with a lot of about 120 circulated Morgans. All others just common date coins.

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by CascadeChris » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:05 pm

Windycity wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:59 pm
Picked this up with a lot of about 120 circulated Morgans. All others just common date coins.
Very cool.. I've been through similar lots and all I've found are minor filled dies or rotated reverses. Major score for a pup dollar lot right here tho! 😎
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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by colwillys » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:22 pm

PM Sent
Type 1 planchet into wrong collar . Should have been a Type 2 planchet . Need to get the big book out .

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Re: Off-Center 1921-D or something else?

Post by vamsterdam » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:41 am

@colwillys lys how do you see a type 1 planchet?

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