1882 O/S V4 EDS DMPL chatter

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demetri
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1882 O/S V4 EDS DMPL chatter

Post by demetri » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:21 pm

I just sent this coin to Anacs. I could use some help on how much chatter affects the grade on a DMPL or PL. This coin has a ton of chatter that blocks mirror to some degree.

I think it has some light PVC damage and which Im hoping Anacs during conservation might make it a little better. Such a shame for such a rare coin to be covered in chatter but Im hoping for the best grade. Sorry for pics, I have a lot to learn about coin photos.

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Re: 1882 O/S EDS DMPL chatter

Post by demetri » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:33 pm

Sorry I forgot to add I believe it is a Vam 4
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Re: 1882 O/S V4 EDS DMPL chatter

Post by morganman » Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:58 pm

Coin appears scratched/cleaned & most likely will come back from TPG
DETAILS. Also vam 4 EDS is a tough find so i always question the rare EDS
Designation, so i hope it is EDS, as value goes ballistic Good Luck
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Re: 1882 O/S V4 EDS DMPL chatter

Post by JASONKFLO » Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:14 pm

Does look harshly cleaned from the pics . Maybe it looks better in hand.
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Re: 1882 O/S V4 EDS DMPL chatter

Post by demetri » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 pm

I took dark pictures at sharp angles to see the surface scratches but they are not lined up and are more like the chatter found on mirror coins, I think it has some PVC light on surface and on chatter hoping will clean up, but wondering about amount of chatter on mirror surface and how much it affects the grade. I mean I know it does to some degree but other than the chatter, the mirrors are deep.

The mirror images above show correct color. The coin is very bright looking in hand, it has chatter in normal places it would be but there is alot of it. Im pretty sure it is a vam 4 mayyyyybe a 5 lol, but I am still learning, the question isssssssss the grade uuuggghhhh waiting is going to kill me. Maybe messydesk will clue me in lol its in Anacs has now

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Re: 1882 O/S V4 EDS DMPL chatter

Post by morganman » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:01 pm

My bet is that it is not a EDS example. Just experience from thousands of O/S
i have attributed over 50 yrs + Lol telling age LOL
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Re: 1882 O/S V4 EDS DMPL chatter

Post by demetri » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:58 pm

Your probably right since it is so scarce. Im still new to vams so I could be wrong. Following the diagnostics on this variety is all over the place, I think I followed them correctly but hey, what do I know lol I guess I just have to put in the time like everyone else. Anyway a lesson is on its way soon, Anacs has it and we will find out soon enough LOL.

Well anyway I was really asking about how much chatter affects the grade on a deep mirror field. There is also a light haze over the obverse Im guessing is PVC damage, the fields have a pretty deep mirror and chatter blocks some of the view. I have zero experience with PL or DMPL's and have seen chatter on mirror surfaces before so I was wondering how much it will affect the grade. I have to admit under close dark images looks like harsh cleaning but in hand looks like normal chatter to me so Im not really sure what will happen with this coin at Anacs, I know its in good hands and looking forward to see what happens.

Thanks for your input

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