1878-S Anomaly:

Geseas · Post by **Geseas** » Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:43 pm

Hello,
Has anyone here on this site experimented with
Linux & numismatics?

  This Google Docs thing that I have been playing with here does not seem to be easily available to everyone.    Too bad; it has a lot of interesting features.

[/u] This Linux thing is interesting also!
...On a learning curve... Thanks for your contributions.

Below is a Google Doc I play with on occasion. Please Edit if you like/dislike. Thanks

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AuV ... sp=sharing

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:36 pm

Hey ,I wondered where this went . I wanted to ask you if the one sample could possibly be a flaking type of crack in the planchet . I don't know and am not savey enough to guess . I just wondered if it could almost be a lamination error kind of thing ???? any thoughts

Geseas · Post by **Geseas** » Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:56 am

Thanks, Bob.

I've looked at that anomaly in the 'date at the first eight' for years now and I am still not sure what it is. I would like to poke that scab-looking crust piece, circled in this photo; just to see what the surface is like underneath.

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The 'cracks' make it look like it would pop right off.

Dennis thought it may be a stain/residue etch of some kind, but he was looking at the first photos I took here on Vamworld 2.0; before I had a camera.

I think that microscope you've been looking for may be necessary here.

I will post my question in the discussion forum so everyone can see the photos and hopefully comment.

Questions like this one here may not be ready for prime time.

yet.

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:26 am

You should post the other picture on here the one looking up from the bottom ...... And I'm not sure if its just a brittle planchet or something else , but your new camera takes way nice pictures , Dino-lite or something else ?????? and if you poke it with a stick er i mean toothpick there is a pretty good chance it will leave a scratch

Geseas · Post by **Geseas** » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:14 pm

I am hoping this is the photo you mentioned above:

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Here is another photo I just took. I think you can see the elevation of the anomaly much better. That P.M. scratch across both surfaces and on the surface of the '7' is a good pick-up for that raised elevation change. IMO

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The camera I am using now is an Olympus digital but the lens is a fixed 60 mm macro. It allows you lots of space between the coin and the lens. Use that space to 'play' with the lighting.

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:51 am

Heck man < I don't know what would cause that for sure . Might have to get one of these guys that does this for a living give it a more educated guess . No one on this forum was alive when that was minted . I was just thinking if for some reason the planchet had not been annealed properly it could have been hard and brittle . lots of pressure involved in striking a coin . Metal does strange things when subjected to those kind of forces. I am sometimes suspicious of the things dealers and even collectors may have done to them in the past as well. still have not quite figured out why some coin shops would need a B tank in the back unless there is some hanky panky going on far from public view .

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:34 pm

HI Geseas'
I got schooled a little bit in Prime time on the finer arts of Laminated Planchets .oh well . I don't believe any of us are just born with all the knowledge encoded in our DNA regarding coin collecting.

That scope I was look at is not practical for a hobbyist. I am not sure if it would even have a large enough field of view to capture say a full coin image. Ziess has several accessories and you would think for the money any application a guy might want could be ordered . I was really more interested in the technology that looked to me like a picture could be captured all in focus even if the coin was not flat. Say you had it tilted on a slight angle to capture a clash .To have the whole thing in focus would be huge ..... Maybe one of the more esteemed Doctor type members could sneek a Morgan dollar into his lab that already has one of these and snap a screen shot . https://www.zeiss.com/metrology/product ... ISEALw_wcB

Geseas · Post by **Geseas** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:03 pm

Hey Bob,

After reading and looking at the Zeiss link you provided. I was reminded of this method called Focus Stacking. This is when you take multiple images of a coin, variating just the focal point in each; stack/or layer all these images together and form just one image.

I used it on my last photo in this post. Very easily done; even though it may sound complicated. Some cameras have it built-in.

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:27 am

Yes the stacking thing .... that device does it in real time ,,,,, i had to google 69mm , in comes out to 2.7ish inches that is pretty much a Morgan dollar complete vertical all in focus, all the time . wow says me lol...... like I said not practical for hobbyist but might be the next best thing for a grading company or just someone trying to change the rules .

I still have not found 10x in the accessories only like 3.5 X but I would almost guarantee based on past experience with them it would take awesome VAM plate photos......

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:36 am

very nice pictures ! you've got mad skills!

Geseas · Post by **Geseas** » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:15 pm

UNCLE BINGO wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:36 am
very nice pictures ! you've got mad skills!

...I am going to go with, Motivated and Determined.

We work with the very small here on Vamworld 2.0.

Thank you, Bob!

*I have edited all my above posts in this thread

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:20 am

Just trying to fix it man , make a difference ....... No matter how small!

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:16 am

I read some where mustard seeds are very small . lots of metaphors in stories , no matter the source , hopefully for the good and not the other one . nothing exists without its opposite . might have read that some where as well . the edit thing is like peshure on steroids, sorry I'm just babbling

PS probably did not spell the P word right , thanks G!

Geseas · Post by **Geseas** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 5:52 pm

UNCLE BINGO wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:16 am
I read some where mustard seeds are very small . lots of metaphors in stories , no matter the source , hopefully for the good and not the other one . nothing exists without its opposite . might have read that some where as well . the edit thing is like peshure on steroids, sorry I'm just babbling
on.on
PS probably did not spell the P word right , thanks G!

Thank you Bob for the heads-up. I enjoy your insights on this great site of keen observation.

I will curb that editing thing I have been doing...It is kind of an experiment I have been trying...

You just let me know that my little experiment may be at the expense of others; I had not considered that aspect...

I learn a lot more then just Vams on Vamworld

*do you know what happens when you eat that much popcorn?

UNCLE BINGO · Post by **UNCLE BINGO** » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:23 am

You get fat

, had to cut the corn out of the diet along with the wheat . I guess we shall just have to wait and see if the seeds take my friend . Pretty sure genetically altered stuff is not good for "the health "

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