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Filled letters

Post by fogie » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:02 pm

Here are a few that may not be listed as such..1921 VAM3F1
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, 1921 VAM49
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1921 VAM50
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1921 VAM57
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1921-S VAM1AR
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1921-S VAM3

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Re: Filled letters

Post by fogie » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:03 pm

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Re: Filled letters

Post by DHalladay » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:29 pm

Here are two of my favorites:

1893-CC VAM 4:
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1921-D, which PCGS refused to attribute as VAM 9A:
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Re: Filled letters

Post by tmanhg » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:11 pm

Nice Fogie. I like the filed letters.

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Re: Filled letters

Post by CascadeChris » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:29 pm

Nice fogie. Here's a recent acquisition of a neat known stage, going to PC soon...
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tmanhg
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Re: Filled letters

Post by tmanhg » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:34 pm

I believe JB is tracking the filled dies.

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Re: Filled letters

Post by vamsterdam » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:40 pm

are you sure that is a 1921 v3F!? does it have the gouge in the wing? does it have denticle clashing ? does it have pitting? so, far, I have not seen a single 3F1 as it is called.

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Re: Filled letters

Post by vamsterdam » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:41 pm

gorgeous 1887. I like that CC too.

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Re: Filled letters

Post by HawkeEye » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:37 am

Great examples and pix, and a good teaching lesson for us all.
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Re: Filled letters

Post by vamsterdam » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:42 pm

brent< you said this is a 1921 vam 3F1. I don't know of anyone who has seen one. does it have the gouge in the wing? does it have the denticle clash?

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Re: Filled letters

Post by ljs123 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:10 pm

Brian,
We know it can not be a "true" VAM-3F1 (without getting into their existence). We know this because we can see it has the crack below AM of AMERICA that goes into the wing. We also know that VAM-3F2 comes without this crack. So from his photo we know it is not a 3F1.

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Re: Filled letters

Post by messydesk » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:36 pm

tmanhg wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:34 pm
I believe JB is tracking the filled dies.
I had been doing that, mostly for coins where lettering is cleanly missing and a VAM number would have been assigned in the past. For a series where major striking errors are extremely rare and expensive, crisply filled dies represent some of the best errors that can be found. If you identify the VAM of a filled die, put a picture on the VAM page of the die fill under the additional pictures so people know it's available.

As with die breaks vs. die cracks, a lot of fills fall into the gray area of deciding whether or not it's filled enough to mention. The most desirable are those with no trace of a filled letter showing, and these become even more desirable when multiple specimens have been found, such as the 21-D "tru-t", 93-CC shown above, and 21-D and 21-S with missing mint marks. I'll continue to mention these on the my labels, even if the fills don't affect the VAM number.
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Re: Filled letters

Post by bob259 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:09 pm

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If you identify the VAM of a filled die, put a picture on the VAM page of the die fill under the additional pictures so people know it's available.
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Here's a nice one: ANACS Attributed AU 58 1923 P VAM 1AC2 PEACE is completely missing!

I'll add the pictures to the listing.
1923PVAM1AC2-1.jpg
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Re: Filled letters

Post by bob259 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:34 pm

bob259 wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:09 pm

Here's a nice one: ANACS Attributed AU 58 1923 P VAM 1AC2 PEACE is completely missing!

I'll add the pictures to the listing.

1923PVAM1AC2-1.jpg1923PVAM1AC2-2.jpg
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Re: Filled letters

Post by blh74 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:20 pm

Great pics. Best error filled or whatever it is.

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