NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by DHalladay » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:05 pm

This one comes with a history lesson for those of you who weren't around during the fake 1896-1900-1902 Micro-Os melt bucket treasure hunt (that's where a lot of them were found) during roughly 2000-2005. Unlike many collectors, the last of the grading companies somehow didn't figure out they were bogus until the spring of 2005, at which point they instantly stopped attributing them. PCGS even started an aggressive buy-back program for all of the coins it graded -- which is still in effect to the best of my knowledge. The immediate result was to magnify demand for any of the "Illicit Trio" in a PCGS holder, and send the remaining coins deep into hiding. These days they come up for sale about as often as presidential elections.

I bought this coin in January 2002 in an ANACS F15 holder. I contacted then PCGS president Rick Montgomery and asked, since the 1896 and 1902 Micro-O were being graded, could I submit the first 1900 Micro-O? He said yes, and it became the first one one in a PCGS holder in February 2002.

Many years later, just for fun, I sent it to CAC. :lol:

The cost number you're trying to guess is what I paid for the ANACS coin, plus the PCGS Economy grading fee. No postage, because I dropped off and picked up in person, no processing fee, and no Variety Attribution fee; those didn't start until September 2005.

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by collectinsince65 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:19 pm

Great back story and coin Dennis!!
$45

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by johnhenry9009 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:29 pm

Very cool. $60
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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by Jodemyer » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:34 pm

Great story! Thanks for the history! I will say 30.00
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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by lioncutter » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:05 pm

$50
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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by JohnGoldsmith » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:12 pm

75.00

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by DHalladay » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:21 am

@JohnGoldsmith is the winner! My actual price was $200 + $15 grading -- which was a huge bargain at the time. The Micro-Os in PCGS holders were selling for crazy money at the time, as seen in this price sample from back in the day:

1896-O Micro 4 45 ANACS Dec-07 VQ $602
1896-O Micro 4 40 PCGS Nov-04 H $2,990
1896-O Micro 4 35 PCGS Apr-05 E $3,905
1896-O Micro 4 20 raw Apr-05 E $431
1896-O Micro 4 15 raw Mar-08 E $165
1896-O Micro 4 12 ANACS Sep-06 E $405
1896-O Micro 4 12 ANACS Aug-05 E $160
1896-O Micro 4 10 PCGS Dec-07 E $366
1896-O Micro 4 10 ANACS May-07 E $115
1896-O Micro 4 10 raw Apr-07 E $87
1896-O Micro 4 8 ANACS Dec-05 E $350

1900-O Micro 5 35 PCGS Nov-04 H $2,645
1900-O Micro 5 35 PCGS Nov-04 E $2,025
1900-O Micro 5 20 PCGS Apr-05 E $825
1900-O Micro 5 20 SEGS Apr-05 E $204
1900-O Micro 5 15 ANACS Jan-05 E $200
1900-O Micro 5 15 raw Feb-08 E $175
1900-O Micro 5 12 PCGS Apr-05 E $906

1902-O micro 3 55 ANACS Feb-05 PP $11,000
1902-O micro 3 40 ANACS Apr-05 PP $4,500
1902-O micro 3 35 PCGS Nov-05 E $1,826
1902-O micro 3 30 PCGS Jan-05 Su $5,100
1902-O micro 3 30 raw Sep-06 E $825
1902-O micro 3 30 raw Apr-05 E $660
1902-O micro 3 25 PCGS Apr-05 E $3,251
1902-O micro 3 25 PCGS Jun-05 E $1,703
1902-O micro 3 20 PCGS Nov-04 H $2,070
1902-O micro 3 15 raw Apr-05 E $921
1902-O micro 3 15 PCGS Mar-05 E $400
1902-O micro 3 15 raw Oct-05 E $179
1902-O micro 3 12 PCGS Apr-05 E $1,515
1902-O micro 3 12 PCGS Jun-07 PP $900
1902-O micro 3 12 ANACS Jun-05 H $293
1902-O micro 3 10 PCGS Apr-05 E $1,365
1902-O micro 3 10 raw Aug-05 E $177
1902-O micro 3 10 raw Oct-06 E $158
1902-O micro 3 10 raw Jul-05 E $158
1902-O micro 3 10 raw Apr-07 E $144
1902-O micro 3 8 PCGS Jan-05 E $1,275
1902-O micro 3 8 raw Feb-05 E $450
1902-O micro 3 8 raw Feb-08 E $326
1902-O micro 3 8 ANACS Jun-07 MF $288
1902-O micro 3 8 ANACS Mar-08 E $154
1902-O micro 3 8 raw Oct-07 E $148
1902-O micro 3 8 raw Aug-05 E $97
1902-O micro 3 6 PCGS Apr-05 PP $900
1902-O micro 3 6 PCGS Oct-05 E $338
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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by JohnGoldsmith » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:34 am

Time to put some cash on the table. Some know the answer, so they cannot play. Coin was purchased in a SEGS holder, several years ago. I cracked it out and sent it to PCGS. Mike Farone did the attribution and he called in Oxman to verify it. First one problem free and it was a late die state. Variety VAM 14.19 Broken 8, Grade VF30, Population 1, Pop Higher 4.
No cherry picking on this one.

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by collectinsince65 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:48 am

5K

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by JohnGoldsmith » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:26 am

collectinsince65 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:48 am
5K
low try again, going to work will be later tonight for the winner.

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by Jodemyer » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:19 pm

7500.01
They must have taken my marbles away

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by johnhenry9009 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:06 pm

$15,357
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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by jrfaust » Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:34 pm

$120 Total :popcorn:

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by JohnGoldsmith » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:26 pm

Jodemyer wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:19 pm
7500.01
Winner, $8,500.00

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:05 am

That is an awesome one! @JohnGoldsmith
Ok so I started searching for a few errors on Morgans and found this cracked planchet that I had posted on here before I believe. It actually goes quite a bit farther than is easily seen in pictures. It detailed out because of a scratch, which I thought was funny because, well it's cut nearly in half...I know I know it was because faulty planchet not damage, still just funny to me!
Best offer was accepted.
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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by johnhenry9009 » Tue Aug 22, 2023 2:18 am

$100
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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by jrfaust » Tue Aug 22, 2023 2:20 am

$110 :popcorn:

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by JohnGoldsmith » Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:57 am

155.00

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by keilg1 » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:22 am

$155.01

;)

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Re: NEW GAME,,,,, VAM "The Price is right "

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:11 pm

I paid 120.00 including shipping, so Jody wins! @jrfaust
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