1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by Jodemyer » Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:32 am

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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by fogie » Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:41 am

So be it! We ship on the morrow!
Have a great day!

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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by messydesk » Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:57 pm

fogie wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:41 am
So be it! We ship on the morrow!
Only if you ride at dawn.
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by keilg1 » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:19 pm

Jodemyer wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:32 am
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Apologies, was vacationing on the Norfolk coast until today. Still have sand in-between my... er... toes. I'll land stateside in about a week and a half and can shoot mine towards JB as soon as possible. That'd be quicker than if I dropped it in the post from here (although not necessarily cheaper as my plane ticket was tad bit higher than Royal Mail postage... will let you know when it's on the way!

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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by Jodemyer » Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:44 pm

@keilg1
Hope you are having a great vacation! Wishing you safe travels! I only had the one 1880S but I sent with a few more to be attributed.
Mine just arrived at Barrington IL Post Office today. Looking forward to the results! @fogie @messydesk
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by keilg1 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:42 am

Jodemyer wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:44 pm
@keilg1
Hope you are having a great vacation! Wishing you safe travels! I only had the one 1880S but I sent with a few more to be attributed.
Mine just arrived at Barrington IL Post Office today. Looking forward to the results! @fogie @messydesk
JB, would you still like mine to be sent after I arrive at the end of the month? Happy to post it to you then.

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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by messydesk » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:28 pm

I have Brent's and Jody's coins in front of me at the moment. It actually looks like Jody's is VAM 24, and not Brent's. The VAM book clearly shows the chip that is in the top of the upper loop of the first 8. The reverses of the two coins are the same, with Brent's being later die state. It also appears that the reverse is indeed the same as that of VAM 10, with VAM 24 being earlier.
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by Jodemyer » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:49 pm

Thanks @messydesk ! I could not match anything except the chip on the obverse! I was wondering!
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by messydesk » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:30 am

A little more digging and Brent's 80-S labeled VAM 24 is actually VAM 105, cataloged with the C3q reverse of VAM 10. It was discovered in 2013 by one Brent Fogelberg. I'm going to change the reverse name of VAM 24 to C3q to keep it consistent with VAMs 10 and 105.
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by Jodemyer » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:46 am

Thanks! @messydesk
So is my 24 an eds or different die state than the plate pics since it does not have the scribbles or the other obverse markers? Or I could not see them anyway lol other than the die chip in the 8 that is.
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by messydesk » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:42 am

The obverse pictures on the VAM 24 page were all VAM 105, so I removed them from the VAM 24 page. I added the clear picture of the chip inside the upper loop of the 8. I may add a couple more. VAM 24 has the earliest reverse of 24, 10, and 105.
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:43 am

This little exchange has actually been fascinating , Big thanks to all of you ! still not sure who will do the Die study on this year but It is what it is on that front. ;)
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by Jodemyer » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:19 am

Thankyou! @messydesk
I vote @UNCLE BINGO to do die study!
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by keilg1 » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:36 am

Awesome sauce...

To confirm, though: @messydesk, you do not need me to send mine to ya?

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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by messydesk » Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:33 pm

keilg1 wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:36 am
Awesome sauce...

To confirm, though: @messydesk, you do not need me to send mine to ya?
Correct. This mystery has been solved.
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:08 pm

Jodemyer wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:19 am
Thankyou! @messydesk
I vote @UNCLE BINGO to do die study!
Pretty sure 110 die pairs would be a job for Superman or @fogie
and not this kid :lol:
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by messydesk » Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:20 pm

UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:08 pm
Jodemyer wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:19 am
Thankyou! @messydesk
I vote @UNCLE BINGO to do die study!
Pretty sure 110 die pairs would be a job for Superman or @fogie
and not this kid :lol:
"A journey of a thousand miles..."

You'll also learn a bit along the way.
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Re: 1880s I think vam24 reverse is same as vam 10

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:47 pm

messydesk wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:20 pm
UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:08 pm
Jodemyer wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:19 am
Thankyou! @messydesk
I vote @UNCLE BINGO to do die study!
Pretty sure 110 die pairs would be a job for Superman or @fogie
and not this kid :lol:
"A journey of a thousand miles..."

You'll also learn a bit along the way.
Pretty sure the first thing you would learn is the amount of money it would take to buy that many coins :lol: GC pictures would probably not cut it , Heritage photos could aid in the process , but as a blind guess you would only find a fraction of the pairs needed already slabbed and photographed . I'm afraid this task will take a village to study . It's not really feasible for the sophomore class :popcorn:
" May your clashes be EDS , your breaks be LDS , and your wife not have PMS over your collecting habits! " ;)

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