1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

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dcarr
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1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by dcarr » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:59 am

Greetings,
I have not visited here in some time, but I have some recent finds to share.

I came across this 1921 [P] Morgan and it has severe die scratching on the reverse.
I looked for this in the VAM listings, but I did not find one that matches.
So I don't know if this is potentially a new VAM or I just overlooked one of the already-listed VAMs.
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DHalladay
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Re: 1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by DHalladay » Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:33 pm

Very neat coin!

My best guess is 1B2 (but it doesn't quite seem to match.)
My next best guess is a previously unreported die state of something else.

@messydesk needs to put his eyes on this one.
When in doubt... don't.

RogerRock
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Re: 1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by RogerRock » Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:49 pm

Interesting heavy die abrasions. Thanks for sharing.
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weth
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Re: 1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by weth » Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:17 pm

Looks like a nice example of VAM 1AQ3 (previously also listed as VAM 1G)

DHalladay
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Re: 1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by DHalladay » Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:33 pm

weth wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:17 pm
Looks like a nice example of VAM 1AQ3 (previously also listed as VAM 1G)
Tom is right! -- 1AQ3.
When in doubt... don't.

Geseas
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Re: 1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by Geseas » Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:08 pm

Well done! with great photos too. Thanks

dcarr
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Re: 1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by dcarr » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:22 pm

Thanks,
Yes the die file lines exactly match VAM-1AQ3.
The one odd thing, however, is that this coin does not have any of the scribbling on either side of the leg.

Jodemyer
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Re: 1921 [P] Morgan, extreme die scratching on reverse

Post by Jodemyer » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:48 pm

Nice! @dcarr Boy Its covered up in scratches! very cool!
Do the scribbles fade away after prolonged die use? Seems to me that it would take alot of use to erase them as they seem pretty deeply imbedded into the die face.
I would think the devices would have a look of a seriously deteriorated die or overpolishing at that point? I am learning so I am probably way off base!
Nice Morgan!
They must have taken my marbles away

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