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1878-S Help Needed

Post by ChrisPaulis » Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:42 am

Am I the only one who struggles to attribute 1878-S Morgans? I've had this on my desk for months and keep coming back to it. I find new things each time, but I'm still stymied. I believe that the S is in the left position, and it has engraved wing and broken 4th right star, but I feel like I get buried in the long list every time I try to narrow it down, so help would be appreciated.
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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:47 am

Nope they are not that simple ..., I found mine on a fluke comparing wreath bow pictures and the attribution guide . that was only after a couple times looking at that big ole list ... did you post the r in trust yet ???
" May your clashes be EDS , your breaks be LDS , and your wife not have PMS over your collecting habits! " ;)

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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by ChrisPaulis » Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:59 am

Here's a shot of the r in trust.
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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:21 am

So r intact , 4th broken star , MM position, and like a sandblasted looking wreath and bow and the tail feathers and wing gap look like ????And ????????



Ps and a short nock :popcorn:
" May your clashes be EDS , your breaks be LDS , and your wife not have PMS over your collecting habits! " ;)

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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by Vam-mysterio » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:05 am

Hi
Post pictures of:

Wing-neck gap
Liberty
Also full
Reverse and obverse pics
Challenge yourself,start doing your own date study!

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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by keilg1 » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:26 am

Figuring out if LIBERTY is doubled or not will lead to 1 of 2 potential lists (http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... _Varieties). Suggest then marching through the engraved wing area guide pictures, comparing them with what you see in the ear, bow, hair d, etc.

I'll not stop you from enjoying the rush when you figure this out but I believe it's a farily clear one once you have the right pieces in place... as I think I've figured it out already!

Please post PUPs of what you think relevant so those of us 78S junkies can revel in your rush?

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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by lewisr2 » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:50 pm

Don't look through the engraved wing areas lists.
This looks like a not engraved wing area.

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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by lewisr2 » Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:11 pm

Take a look at 103 die 3.

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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by ChrisPaulis » Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:43 pm

Here are the additional photos.
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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:11 am

lewisr2 wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:11 pm
Take a look at 103 die 3.
Without the coin in hand I am gonna say do what he said ,,, :lol:
looks pretty close to me from what I could see anyways .
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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by ChrisPaulis » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:34 pm

@lewisr2 & @UNCLE BINGO, you guys rock! You are spot on with VAM-103.3. See photos. Thanks for your help!
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Re: 1878-S Help Needed

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:35 pm

That credit all goes to @@lewisr2 It probably would still be sitting on my desk VNA.... pretty sweet VAM !!!
" May your clashes be EDS , your breaks be LDS , and your wife not have PMS over your collecting habits! " ;)

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