i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

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bhinkle
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i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by bhinkle » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:21 am

I have a 1923 S PCGSMS63 Peace dollar, with many clashes.
I see diagonal lines running out of Liberty's forehead and at the
bottom of jaw, near the top of her neck.
L see a number of clashes on the reverse.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Bert
Attachments
1923 S PCGSMS63 2 OBV.jpg
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1923 S PCGSMS63 REV 2.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 REV 2.jpg (147.27 KiB) Viewed 761 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 FOREHEAD.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 FOREHEAD.jpg (55.37 KiB) Viewed 761 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 NECK.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 NECK.jpg (83.86 KiB) Viewed 761 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 BACK NECK.jpg
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bhinkle
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by bhinkle » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:23 am

MORE PICTURES
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1923 S PCGSMS63 RAY CLASH 2.jpg
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1923 S PCGSMS63 WING  CLASH.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 WING CLASH.jpg (92.25 KiB) Viewed 760 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 WING CLASH 1.jpg
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1923 S PCGSMS63 CLASH 3.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 CLASH 3.jpg (81.69 KiB) Viewed 760 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 SCRATCH.jpg
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bhinkle
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by bhinkle » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:26 am

MORE PICTURES
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1923 S PCGSMS63 R.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 R.jpg (78.73 KiB) Viewed 760 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 Y.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 Y.jpg (117.76 KiB) Viewed 760 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 CLASH.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 CLASH.jpg (103.75 KiB) Viewed 760 times
1923 S PCGSMS63 RAY CLASH.jpg
1923 S PCGSMS63 RAY CLASH.jpg (75.03 KiB) Viewed 760 times

bhinkle
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by bhinkle » Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:03 pm

I just saw one more important clash, just under the M, to the right of the eagle.
I hope this helps.
Any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Bert
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1923 S PCGSMS63 M CLASH.jpg
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davidkclose
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by davidkclose » Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:07 am

I am leaning toward an EDS of VAM 1BU, the tipoff being the die scratch in R of LIBERTY. I want to look more closely at my available coins & photos before coming to a firm conclusion.

keilg1
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by keilg1 » Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:08 am

Nice looking coin with wickedly cool clash attributes. Can't help with the attribution (more out of technical ineptitude than a moral/ethical decision to avoid the darkside...), sorry, but good luck!

bhinkle
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by bhinkle » Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:39 pm

Thank you everyone,
Here are some more pictures, that may be more accurate and taken at a little different angle.
The clash on top of the eagle's wing and waht looks like doubling on the front profile, of Liberty's face.
Thank you for your help Dr Close. Bert
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Tue Jul 11 14-07-12.jpg
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Tue Jul 11 14-08-38.jpg
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Tue Jul 11 14-12-51.jpg
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Tue Jul 11 14-10-06.jpg
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Tue Jul 11 14-10-35.jpg
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colwillys
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by colwillys » Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:02 pm

Try VAM 1DX1

bhinkle
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by bhinkle » Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:01 am

Thank you Tom,
I could be wrong, but I think the end of the clash on the VAM 1DX1, is more in the middle,
of the eagles neck and the ray and the one on my 1923 S is closer to the ray.
How about all of the cool clashes like the one under the M, to the right of the eagle, that
I don't see on the VAM 1BU and what looks like two diagonal lines running out of the forehead
and under the chin, near the top of the neck, on the obv.
That die file through the R, in LIBERTY is just like the VAM 1BU
I know, that I have seen that round object, just below the hair, on the top of the back of
Liberty's neck on some vam.
THANK YOU again for helping me, Bert
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Tue Jul 11 14-10-35 1923 S PCGSMS63.jpg
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bhinkle
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by bhinkle » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:47 am

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

davidkclose
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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by davidkclose » Sun Jul 16, 2023 1:14 am

I am still looking, the easiest die marker is the die scratch thru R of LIBERTY.

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Re: i need help with my 1923 S Peace dollar

Post by davidkclose » Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:19 am

To bring this one back to the top, I need to look at my 1923S files for this & other coins.

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