1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

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1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

Post by Inspector7127 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:58 pm

I am new to this form. I am really into the Morgan Silver Dollar series. I have close to 510 Morgan dollars. I have been trying to match each up with a VAM #. I have one that is a puzzler. It is an 1878 8TF that appears to be a VAM-6. It is close but not quite.

Looking close at it today, the engraved wing feathers do not quite match up and there are two what look like die chips or
denticle marks below the E in AMERICA. I am at a loss as it does not match anything in the VAM series for an 8 TF 1878.

I have attached photos for review.
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Re: 1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

Post by messydesk » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:10 pm

The first thing to look at on an 8TF is those engraved feathers. Post those here and we'll start steering you in the right direction. Other stuff doesn't matter yet.
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Re: 1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

Post by ljs123 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:13 pm

From what I can see, it looks like a 6 to me.
Close up photos of the feathers will help.
The marks near the E looks like PMD (Post Mint Damage).
But wishes on attributing 500+ Morgans. Should be FUN. :D

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Re: 1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

Post by Inspector7127 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:59 pm

In regards to my 1878 8TF VAM-6 question, here are the photos of the wing feathers for this coin. They do not match any the VAM photos either. The top photo is of the shows the two engraved feathers while the lower photo shows the three feathers. Like I said, they do not quite match up.

Thanks again for the help and information.
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Re: 1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

Post by messydesk » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:02 pm

Sure looks like the A1d reverse to me. There are several obverses that were used with this reverse, VAM 6 being just one of them.
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Re: 1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

Post by Inspector7127 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:03 pm

Thanks messy desk. The information is a great help. Got my work cut out for me. A lot to learn and study.

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Re: 1878 8 TF possible VAM-6. Questions

Post by ljs123 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:05 pm

Inspector7127 wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:59 pm
In regards to my 1878 8TF VAM-6 question, here are the photos of the wing feathers for this coin. They do not match any the VAM photos either. The top photo is of the shows the two engraved feathers while the lower photo shows the three feathers. Like I said, they do not quite match up.

Thanks again for the help and information.

Inspector,
You say your reverse photos show that your coin doesn’t match VAM-6. However; other than damage to the coin that is over 100 years old, it does look just like a VAM-6 reverse. And like you were already told, that same reverse was used on a few other VAMs. So now we need to pin down the obverse to prove what VAM you have.

Could you explain what you see that makes you think it is not the VAM-6 reverse? Look past the years old PMD.

Keep at it. We will help you pin this down.

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