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I know the 85-O is riddled with sawdust issues so this might fall into that category. I can't poke any of the coin with a stick as it's in a PCGS holder, but if I could this might be easier to figure out.

First, I got this b/c I thought it might be a VAM-28 with the MPD... don't think it is b/c of the date placement and what I thought I saw as the MPD 1 digit might be an evil mimic (sawdust...).

Looking at the other PUPs, however, now has me confused. The ear is relatively clear, the hair D has at least 4 pronounced die scratches innit (as they say in the U.K.), the bow has defined scratches that don't quite align with the other pictures, and there is what appears to be a nicely upward shifted second mm that parallel many of the 83 and 84 O/O varieties - albeit rare for the 85 coins (and the VAM-12 being the only confirmed one).

Thoughts from anyone more familiar with the series?

First, FCPs:

Next, the potential O/O as this is the main question:

And the date:


Next will come additional PUP pics...

Other PUP pics:

I don't recognize either the obverse or the reverse at all.

Thanks, @weth. I believe someone did a farily detailed study of these in the past but can't recall who. Hoping someone remembers and helps, or at least has additional thoughts.

Unsure what happened to the date picture - shows normal on my computer but magically flips after it uploads. Tried it again just now with the same outcome. Thanks, IT dieties, for keeping life fun!

I believe that Mr. weth mentioned doing one for the 1885-O in early 2019. But I don't believe anybody has done a die study for the 1885-O O/O yet, but I could be wrong.
http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic ... udy#p11042

The late Metalencephalon / Nate started an 85-O die study, and then I picked it up just to finish what he had started. So when I say that I don't recognize it, I mean that I can't match either the obverse or the reverse to any of those currently listed.

I would suggest sending it to JB/VSS or JR/ANACS for further examination.

weth wrote: ↑

Sun May 21, 2023 4:38 pm

The late Metalencephalon / Nate started an 85-O die study, and then I picked it up just to finish what he had started. So when I say that I don't recognize it, I mean that I can't match either the obverse or the reverse to any of those currently listed.

I would suggest sending it to JB/VSS or JR/ANACS for further examination.

Thanks, my friend, appreciate your input.