Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1881-S VAM-?? with Pitted Obverse + Polished Hair...

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: Peace MS63 1922 VAM-1AA...?

Post by TheYokel » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:43 am

ljs123 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:10 am
Ant,
Not 1AA for a few reasons.
Most importantly for the same reason as not 1A, at least in my opinion.
Hopefully a Peace dollar VAMmer will correct me if I am wrong.
Please read the 1922 listing page. Please read about B1 and B2 reverses. Take a close up of the reverse mountains and post here. Then you tell us if you have a B1 or B2 reverse.
I wasn't ignoring you boss. I've spent over 3 hours going over this thing to give it another shot after knowing the reverse...

...this might be my last piece dollar i do lol... There is too much minutiae on these... I can barely get 1 out of 5 Morgans right... I thought seeing a different coin and using what I've been shown to look at it would be educational... But Peace Dollars are just horrible...

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:25 am

Along with the neck crack... This is the marker I had decided to try and locate in a listing... But no...

...no i can find 40 listings for halfway invisible gouges in a "G"... But a 5mm die scratch in the hat?... Of course not.

I will never complain about a Morgan again...

...(I'm going to complain about the very next Morgan...)
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I also think her profile and some obverse letters might be doubled... I have nothing to compare them to... Could be completely normal. I've only been looking for the hat scratch anyhow...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by colwillys » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:57 pm

It is always good to till B1 REV and B2 REV .. This can help in finding the right VAM ..
Please read the PEACE dollar ATTRIBUTION page .
I will try and help guide you through .. By your photos I say VAM 2 .. Nice coin and holder .

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by colwillys » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:03 pm

Just saw your new photos .. Take a good look at the collar clash under the mountains .. You may find your VAM there .

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by colwillys » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:19 pm

Check VAM 2DZ

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Revers e 2...

Post by TheYokel » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:47 pm

colwillys wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:19 pm
Check VAM 2DZ
You definitely hit on the clash. The coins locked up while I'm at work for a few hours, but looking through the photos I do see a crack crossing the eagle's head. It just seems to be lower, although i won't know for sure until i have it in hand to peak at.
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I miss being wrong about date placement and die cracks already... I need to find a Morgan to hug...

Edit: 2DV maybe? I'll know for sure in a few hours... Thank you Tom...

New bird beak pic below...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by ljs123 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:32 pm

Tom,
Take a look at his close up photo of the neck crack that goes toward the 1 in 1922. I do not think it matches the crack on the VAM-2DZ page. Close but his crack angles above the 1. The crack on the 2DZ page clearly angles down into the 1 from the very start of the crack.

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:42 pm

ljs123 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:32 pm
Tom,
Take a look at his close up photo of the neck crack that goes toward the 1 in 1922. I do not think it matches the crack on the VAM-2DZ page. Close but his crack angles above the 1. The crack on the 2DZ page clearly angles down into the 1 from the very start of the crack.
There is a die crack with a small "bubble" on the last sun ray... Looks like a... How do we say this with some couth... Well it looks like a spermatazoa lol...
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Maybe that plus the hat scratch, the collar clash, and the eagle beak can narrow it down a little...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:03 pm

Or if "In God We Trust" is actually doubled, maybe that would help get to the bottom of the collar clash conundrum...
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I don't know anything about how Peace Dollar fields look... But I'm starting to think they actually are?...

Edit: the D is what makes me think it the most. It looks like the DareDevil symbol lol...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:45 pm

ljs123 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:32 pm
Tom,
Take a look at his close up photo of the neck crack that goes toward the 1 in 1922. I do not think it matches the crack on the VAM-2DZ page. Close but his crack angles above the 1. The crack on the 2DZ page clearly angles down into the 1 from the very start of the crack.
Yessir I don't believe my neck crack touches side of the one at all... It completely misses it over the top by about 2mm... I'll show where the crack path is in a much better photo when I get home. I didn't know to get the "1" involved in the photo at the time... My apologies.
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:52 am

We haven't forgotten lady liberty...

... So here are the updates... No full crack across the chicken beak...
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And the cracks from the date... One goes over and to the rim... One goes into the 1...
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I remember a listing for a displaced field next to the 1... I just have to track it down to check it...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:56 am

2ET... I named that thing in like the second post... >.<

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:09 am

Whoops accidentally deleted it...

...re-edit: between the 1 and the 9 looks like a gouge? I can't find a collar clash with it listed though...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by colwillys » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:12 pm

NO

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:49 pm

colwillys wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:12 pm
NO
I thought i was on to something with 2ET :(...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by Raybob15239 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:18 pm

I think we might be looking at the same 22P, Ant. :lol:

I will pull mine tonight and try to get photos of the same areas to compare. I don't think any of the cracks/breaks are enough to be anything yet. Mine does not have a collar clash, though (I thought I saw something where you wrote that yours has the collar clash).
I swear, someday I will learn how to grade Peace Dollars!

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:30 pm

Raybob15239 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:18 pm
I think we might be looking at the same 22P, Ant. :lol:

I will pull mine tonight and try to get photos of the same areas to compare. I don't think any of the cracks/breaks are enough to be anything yet. Mine does not have a collar clash, though (I thought I saw something where you wrote that yours has the collar clash).
Yessir, Mr Tom noticed them under the picture of the mountains...
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I just can't either get a crack on the chicken beak in focus, or i don't have one pictured. I think i saw a listing with a collar clash and a neck gouge instead of a beak crack... I just need to find it to know where to photo the coin when i get home...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:14 pm

The "1" from 2ET has a 7oclock to 2oclock scratch across the middle of the number that mine shares in the picture, and it looks like it has the same spot between the 1 and the 9...

This is the closest thing I can find to my date... But there are no photos of the coin to know what the reverse looks like...

I'm really starting to think this might be it though...

Edit: you can make out the diagonal gouge on top of the "1" at 1oclock coming off the number also...
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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by colwillys » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:21 pm

Now that you got a goooood photo of the 1 9 area ,, I say you have it right VAM 2ET .. Now if the collar clash is good
it could be a new list .. It would be a good time for Dr. Close to sign in Because it is his discovery coin .

That Vam made you work ,, good job .

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Re: Ant's Looney Bin... Current Coin: 1922-P... Reverse 2...

Post by TheYokel » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:28 pm

colwillys wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:21 pm
Now that you got a goooood photo of the 1 9 area ,, I say you have it right VAM 2ET .. Now if the collar clash is good
it could be a new list .. It would be a good time for Dr. Close to sign in Because it is his discovery coin .

That Vam made you work ,, good job .
Thank you Mr Tom.

I busted my buttocks going through every listing for this coin trying to find it before someone pointed it out. It took me two days, but i am actually quite happy with the outcome. Slow progress is progress none-the-less :)

Hopefully it pays off with a new collar clash listing :)

-Ant
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