1885 O VAM 25A would this be a LDS

[ShamShield]

Looking at the photos and the VAM 25A I picked up I was wondering if this might be a LDS due to some additional cracking I don't see in the photos (may just be very light) and some displacement on some places. Please let me know what you think!

1st 2 pictures are of same thing at different angles.

3 is between RI

4 is the neck

[ShamShield]

Picture 4 is close up of 4th star right where the crack in Picture 5 goes into the radial

Picture 5 I don't see those cracks in any other the posted photos for the VAM (again may be very light)

[Albannach]

I would look hard at the radial and cap cracks for field displacement, that would list it for a break.

Likely yes Late Die Stage

[messydesk]

Unlikely I'd list that as anything other than VAM 25A. It may or may not be a later die stage than the 25A discovery coin. There are so many cracks on the obverse that it'll take a lot of coins to know how and in what order they all developed. Only after this happens will I consider adding detail to the 25A listing, otherwise I just end up adding confusion.

[ShamShield]

I appreciate that assessment. I was curious as to thoughts of everyone on this one because like previously mention there are so many cracks.

Here is the top of cap, back of cap to between UN and the hair vee

[alefzero]

It looks it.

I had a thread on the old VAMworld on these. I discovered the VAM-25 as a DMPL and sent it to Leroy I believe with a full progression of the obverse degradation from there, at least a half dozen stages. The 25A was already listed (as 1A or something like that) at the time. I showed it was the same die and got it moved. It was a long favorite and I tried to popularize it among a number of others. That obverse became a total mess, practically falling apart.

[keilg1]

Amazgingly shattered coin - love it.