79-S B2a Study

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79-S B2a Study

Post by messydesk » Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:32 am

Saturday at a big show when the dealer is gone but the plastic tablecloth is still there, you have a blank canvas upon which to study the progression of the 1879-S B2a reverse.
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56, 149, and 66 may not be in exactly the right order, and it may never be possible to determine the right order for those 3.
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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by Vam-mysterio » Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:43 am

:o
Challenge yourself,start doing your own date study!

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by keilg1 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:26 am

And shadowpuppet entertainment to boot!? Good job on keeping the brandy juuuuusssssstttt out of the picture.

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by vamnuke » Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:17 am

:o

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by iceman » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:06 pm

OH MY
A new VAM under the 1879-S rev 78 now . COOL !!
Another to search for to complete the set !!! And searching questionable VAM 23's at home . WOW this explains some things with my questions on the 23 . GREAT Work !!! Many Thanks

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by vampicker » Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:08 pm

C'mon you just need multiple examples of each to place side by side and stare at them for hours, passing them back and forth after dinner. It helps if you have at least a couple of people that have no deep interest in varieties that agree to dinner, with no idea a lengthy research session is on the menu for dessert.
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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by MarkyB » Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:46 pm

This novice could digest that a little easier if it wasn't in a right to left format. Is that a numismatist thing? I did like seeing that census for this date in the attribution guides. Kudo's to someone.

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by messydesk » Mon May 01, 2023 1:39 am

vampicker wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:08 pm
C'mon you just need multiple examples of each to place side by side and stare at them for hours, passing them back and forth after dinner. It helps if you have at least a couple of people that have no deep interest in varieties that agree to dinner, with no idea a lengthy research session is on the menu for dessert.
We also didn't have the restaurant quality lighting.
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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by messydesk » Mon May 01, 2023 1:41 am

MarkyB wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:46 pm
This novice could digest that a little easier if it wasn't in a right to left format. Is that a numismatist thing? I did like seeing that census for this date in the attribution guides. Kudo's to someone.
Just happened to be how we laid them out on the table. We decided we needed to document it, so I captioned it on the tablecloth without moving the coins around, then Michael took the picture.
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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by MarkyB » Mon May 01, 2023 2:07 am

Ah, a bunch of left-handed people I imagine. But seriously, the progression thing is something I'd like to eventually understand so I appreciate the post. I'll be looking at it quite a bit over the next few weeks. Thanx JB

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by messydesk » Mon May 01, 2023 2:34 am

Missing from the progression for that reverse were the two that came earlier, but as they're dated 1878, it's pretty obvious where they go. Any time you get one die used in 8 different die marriage, that's a cool thing. When it spans 2 years, even more cool.
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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by coinsupclose » Mon May 01, 2023 5:07 pm

I lost it when John began writing on the tablecloth. It was spontaneous & very funny.

B2a is such an interesting reverse. Lots of discussion went into these over the course of the show.

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by vamsterdam » Tue May 02, 2023 6:45 pm

i found the vam 149at a recent show and identifying it was giving me fits. at first i thought it could be an eds vam 4, but that didn't work, then 23 was out, and i know it couldn't be 56, 66, or 25. it was found on the 3rd day of a show.

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by Unc90o » Wed May 03, 2023 5:17 am

@messydesk
56, 149, and 66 may not be in exactly the right order, and it may never be possible to determine the right order for those 3.
I think VAM-149 struck before VAM-66, based on the relationship of the reverse of 79 counterpart.
While VAM-56 is the "problem child". Can't find the right place for it :D

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Re: 79-S B2a Study

Post by vamsterdam » Thu May 11, 2023 4:33 pm

And that v56 obverse had to have been used before. I just can’t find one. I did pick another v56 in fine at csns, along with a gorgeous 79s vam 16a. I think i tried to link it to the v34b/57,77,77a,83(and another that leroy wouldn’t list because it was too low of a grade).

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