Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

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Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:51 pm

I have a 78s I am trying to attribute and I was wondering if the reverse of vam 55 was ever paired with the obverse of Vam 75. I know the obverse of Vam 55 was shared with Vam 35.
I thought I would ask before I posted pics. I appreciate your help as always in advance!
I also looked at 75a, just not sure because of the lines on the left wing.

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... -S_VAM-75A

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... 8-S_VAM-75

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... 8-S_VAM-55
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:58 pm

heres a couple pics.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:01 am

A few more pics.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:05 am

A couple more.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:36 am

A couple more.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:23 am

Two more. The wing seems like an exact match to Vam 55 to me.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:41 am

Two more.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by vamnuke » Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:00 pm

75 & 55 are the same rev. 55 is later die state than 75.

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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:40 pm

Thankyou!@vamnuke
I was confused about the obverse. The reverse matches Vam 55, which says it's obverse is shared with Vam 35. This obverse matches Vam 75 which has me confused.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by keilg1 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:01 pm

The 35 and 55 definitely have the 'Phrygian Cap Markers' - scratch lines looking like a waffle, can't miss them; the 75 lacks them. Yours lacks them suggesting it's a 75...

The chip in the ear is odd similar - yours shows it suggesting a 75...

Your chip on the cap matches my VAM-75 so it still looks like you have a 75 obverse, which is different than the 55 obverse...

Do you see the following marker(s) below and to the right of the hair D (from my VAM-75 coin):
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If yes, and the B of PLURIBUS is broken as well, I'd say you have a 75 obverse... paired with a 55 reverse... but if the 75 and 55 share the same reverse... you have a VAM-75?

I'm a bit confused and ready to be unconfused!?

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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:01 pm

Thanks!!@keilg1 I will check it for the marker as soon as I get back home this evening.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:41 pm

@keilg1 Ok we got done with the trees earlier than I thought. Heres a couple pics. The markers/gouges to the right of the hair D look like a match to yours to me and the B is broken. So I am pretty sure the obverse
is Vam 75 mated to the 55 reverse. (I know they both share the same reverse but are supposed to have different obverses.) So, still bumfuzzled lol
(Also it is almost proof like on the obverse under the toning and it has a satin like appearance. )
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:46 pm

I'll call it an Arnold Palmer....half and half
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by jrfaust » Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:09 pm

:lol: Great golf reference my friend! :lol: Love the golfer and love the drink! :D

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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:44 pm

@jrfaust It’s my favorite!
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Mon May 15, 2023 7:39 pm

@keilg1 So it turns out its a vam 75. The descriptions and plate photos on the 75 and 55 sure had me confused. ( Still do)Anyway now I know what to call it. Thanks JB!

The screenshot below is what threw me off.
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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by keilg1 » Tue May 16, 2023 6:09 am

Glad this is figured out. A quick mention of thanks for @@vamnuke's comment in the thread, too...

Keep up the great finds! Nice additional list of fun.

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Re: Question about 1878s Vam 55 and 75.

Post by Jodemyer » Tue May 16, 2023 10:30 am

Thanks!@keilg1 Yes and maybe someone can edit the wiki to remove #2 in my above screenshot that states, Fine verticle lines engraved in middle of Eagles left wing (Not on 1878S Vam-75) Since this one is a 75 and has the verticle lines of 55.
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