Possible 1884 S new VAM

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ewee
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Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by ewee » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:50 pm

I was checking out an 1884 S dollar and I noticed that it was an s/s filled s. The obverse had a clear 4/4 which didn't match any of the listed VAMs for 1884 s. Is this a new VAM or just one of the others already listed?

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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by keilg1 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:15 pm

First, welcome to the community (I see this is your first post).

Next, you might be able to see more than your pictures show but I'm not seeing a clear doubling of the 4 that could not be attributed to 'gunk' or potential PMD (postmint damage). The potential S/S is not very clear either but, and again, this could simply be the resolution of the picture.

Is the date on the coin far or very far (can't see the denticles to tell)? Might the lack of other characteristics of the coin leading to a lack of match because the coin is worn?

Any way to get us more (and better) pictures of other major features of the coin so we can help ID the variety? Thankfully there are not many 84Ss to work through. Starting with the date will cut the potential alternatives to weed through in half very quickly.

Again, welcome to the site!

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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:31 pm

Welcome to the forum . I am a big fan of full coin pictures especially on this date because we are always on the hunt for the "Giggles coin " @...kenny found , JR.s 2017 coin of the year VAM 11a , because it is a unicorn . and an extreme rarity . I'm not sure where you start with your coin without a few pictures not so close as @keilg1 was saying . good luck1
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by ewee » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:01 pm

Thanks for the nice welcome! Here are some more pictures. i hope they will help with your analysis.
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by DurhamJnKY » Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:18 pm

Welcome aboard!

Take a look at VAM 9.

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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:05 pm

I'm gonna guess VAM 4B , there is also a v13 listed with a die chip in left wreath but no pictures , I guess you check the denticles closer for any possible MPD???
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by DurhamJnKY » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:13 pm

UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:05 pm
i'm gonna guess VAM 4B
(sheepishly checking his shoes)

Can I want to change my answer to 4B?

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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:15 pm

DurhamJnKY wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:13 pm
UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:05 pm
i'm gonna guess VAM 4B
(sheepishly checking his shoes)

Can I want to change my answer to 4B?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I added a possible V13 to the mix because it has the die chip and mention of MPD like the v 9
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:23 am

How do you do the @...kenny thing and make it work ? It must be the dots . I wanted to ask him for a picture of the discovery coin? VAM 13 . Is that a thing ? I saw the LVA letter it was very cool !
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by ...kenny » Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:49 am

Sorry Guys, didn't know pics of V13 weren't on board. It is OBV of V8 and Rev of V4B. I have a two day card show in Augusta this weekend. I'll try to get some full coin pics next week...kenny
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:01 am

@ eewe Do you have a clear picture of the denticles below 188 in your date?
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by messydesk » Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:47 pm

You have either VAM 4B or VAM 13. Look at the denticles below the 18 in the date for VAM 8. If you have a match, it's VAM 13, otherwise VAM 4B.
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by ewee » Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:29 pm

Again, thanks for all of the great inputs!

Here are some pictures of the denticles.

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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by messydesk » Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:45 pm

Looks like VAM 4B
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Re: Possible 1884 S new VAM

Post by ...kenny » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:10 pm

I can't seem to be able to log in and add pics to 84S V13 page. Perhaps these can be transferred from this one?
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