My own 78-S head scratcher I need help with (please)

[keilg1]

Engraved wing feather area doesn't match up to what my poor eyes can see on the guide page (http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... ther_GUIDE) and I looked under the B2 guide (http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... _Varieties) under the "4th Star Broken, r in trust Unbroken with Doubled Liberty" section with (obvious) failure. 'B' of PLURIBUS is notched/broken but the coin largely lacks other features.

Any postulations by aficionados (or others who hate this year and mint due to the variability of minting standards) warmly welcomed.

78S1765GRed FCO.jpg (181.15 KiB) Viewed 536 times

78S1765GRed FCR.jpg (189.42 KiB) Viewed 536 times

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[keilg1]

78S1765GRed LIBE.jpg (182.26 KiB) Viewed 535 times

78S1765GRed RTY.jpg (177.28 KiB) Viewed 535 times

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[UNCLE BINGO]

How bout ear ,eye and better shot of the wreath bow Doc ? I muddled my way through this date with a wreath bow hit that matched . and then everything else just fell into place .might as well look at the eagles talons to , Dennis makes a good point about those .and I'm still on a wing gap kick this week cause still stuck on a late date dollar

[lewisr2]

I think you have hit the jackpot.
Looks like a VAM-112 to me.

[keilg1]

I think you have hit the jackpot.
Looks like a VAM-112 to me.

Lew, you're always a gentleman and a scholar.

Might, indeed, be a 112 by the reverse, but the obv PUPs are difficult to pick up - but what I see in the ear is a 110 match? I'll share what few photos I've been able to get and hopefully share more this weekend. Will defo look at the UN(UM) and forehead when I can.

Thanks in advance,

Gary


On the obverse:


Three upper and two (non-parallel) lower scratches look like the 110 picture:

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Hair D area looks to be clear with a chip off to the right (also like the 110) - I'll share this in the next batch.


On the reverse:


Almost the linchpin? die scratch eagle's lower right wing:

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Can't easily make out the S(TAT) gouge but it is there in the right lighting - and the scratch lines that can be seen look similar to the 112 page picture:

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Other pics:

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78S1765GRed rev bow details.jpg (135.84 KiB) Viewed 464 times

[keilg1]

Other potential fun bits. Don't believe them to be PMD but can't rule that possibility out.

[keilg1]

How bout ear ,eye and better shot of the wreath bow Doc ? I muddled my way through this date with a wreath bow hit that matched . and then everything else just fell into place .might as well look at the eagles talons to , Dennis makes a good point about those .and I'm still on a wing gap kick this week cause still stuck on a late date dollar

You're a gentleman and a scholar, too, @UNCLE BINGO. Appreciate your help, always.

[UNCLE BINGO]

Thanks . K Isaw that little bit of metal on the tail feathers on Two vams last night that matched your liberty and the best quess I had on the bow . It might even be found on the ear quide but I'm not by my computer. You should find it easy

[UNCLE BINGO]

And that could be the wrong tail feather too . Hard for me to tell on a broken screen cell phone

[UNCLE BINGO]

oh brother, its not even a tail feather i could not tell trough the busted screen ..... listen to lewisr or even better to your self .

[lewisr2]

Need to have tbconcrete check out his MS61 V-110.
I don't have a V 110 to check.

[lewisr2]

I looked at wrong line -- tbconcrete has a MS 62 V-112.

[lewisr2]

I should have checked my notes because there is some interesting info about the V-112.
Back in November of last year Clay Christiansen said that he believes the V-112m and V-88 have the same obverse.
Maybe Clay will notice this topic and give his opinion.

[tbconcrete]

This post has pictures. Sure looks like a VAM 112 to me. Nice find.
http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic ... 112#p42947

[Albannach]

Odds are it's what he said ^

What's up hole digger?

[tbconcrete]

I looked at wrong line -- tbconcrete has a MS 62 V-112.

My coin is still raw and struck through. I have a handful of coins I need to get graded. Should fill some holes in my 78S Set.

[tbconcrete]

Good to hear from you Doug.

[78-sLongnock]

Vam 112 great find

[UNCLE BINGO]

Congrats Doc! Looks like your hunt has ended . Good guides on this here forum !

[UNCLE BINGO]

Sorry about any confusion my presents may have brought on this thread ... you should see the cell phone I tried to look at the newest pictures on ..... you would LYfao .

Thank you to the true experts .
The ones who study this pain in the butt year .