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Attribution 101 page question

Post by ljs123 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:26 pm

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Recently there was a post asking if the coin in question was a very far date.
http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7389

I was going to answer that it was just a far date. So, I went to the Attribution 101 page to copy the example of a far date and a very far date so that I could add those examples to the thread.

The image from the Big Book was easy to understand and is how I think of date location.

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However, when I scrolled down the page I saw a coin photo that was supposed to be an example of a Very Far Date.
Should the photo example of a Very Far Date be changed? It looks like a plain far date to me.
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Attribution 101 page example of a Very Far Date.

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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by messydesk » Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:23 pm

Yes, that's not a good picture for a very far date. I would just call that a far, low date. I know there are some VAMs that have been listed for questionable date positions, and perhaps this was one of them.
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by vampicker » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:18 pm

Stuff like this is the exact reason I prefer the DPIS. For this example, I'd call it LE4RH5.
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by Geseas » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:55 pm

vampicker wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:18 pm
Stuff like this is the exact reason I prefer the DPIS. For this example, I'd call it LE4RH5.
This is new to me. Could anyone suggest a way for me to learn more about this? (for a simple person) :)

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*http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic ... pis#p51376

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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by vampicker » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:28 pm

It's described on the Attribution 101 pages right after the verbal date position definition section
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by Geseas » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:39 pm


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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by Geseas » Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:25 pm

I agree. LE4RH5.

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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:06 am

i Like the DPIS , although it is not really something my brain carries around with it quite yet , it is better and more scientific in my own feeble mind than the subjectivity involved in MM placement . Thanks from one of the new guys !










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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by Geseas » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:46 pm

UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:06 am
i Like the DPIS , although it is not really something my brain carries around with it quite yet , it is better and more scientific in my own feeble mind than the subjectivity involved in MM placement . Thanks from one of the new guys !

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:) Hey Bob. Lets try one [1]! You first. (I have better photographs)
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:03 pm

Geseas wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:46 pm
UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:06 am
i Like the DPIS , although it is not really something my brain carries around with it quite yet , it is better and more scientific in my own feeble mind than the subjectivity involved in MM placement . Thanks from one of the new guys !

edit typo

:) Hey Bob. Lets try one [1]! You first. (I have better photographs)one.JPG








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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by Geseas » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:36 pm

@UNCLE BINGO No problem at all. Vamworld is here to help with stress also. ;)

I have not determined the DPIS of the above pictured '1'. On the perpetual learning curve... Thanks for any comments.

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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by vampicker » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:41 pm

Geseas wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:46 pm
UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:06 am
i Like the DPIS , although it is not really something my brain carries around with it quite yet , it is better and more scientific in my own feeble mind than the subjectivity involved in MM placement . Thanks from one of the new guys !

edit typo

:) Hey Bob. Lets try one [1]! You first. (I have better photographs)one.JPG








You need the point of the neck in frame. Need to see the starting point to be able to count
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by Geseas » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:18 pm

:oops: I noticed my mistake. I will fix. Thanks JR

I was trying to find a sample coin with the LEB1 and the REB1 were between the denticles. This one has to be close...
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by impairedsquirrel » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:19 pm

AH, the acronyms of our hobby!!!
What the heck does this one mean?!?!
Date Position Index System?
Don't Poke It, Stupid? Seems this could be the antithesis to PIWAS.
Don't Put In Snout?? I believe I recall mama saying this often, but that was WEEKS ago!
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by vampicker » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:00 am

Deliberate Participation In Silliness?
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by vampicker » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:02 am

But seriously, without the point of the neck showing I have to guess at the count but I'm betting on RE3B45
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by impairedsquirrel » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:04 am

vampicker wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:00 am
Deliberate Participation In Silliness?
Hey, I feel like I was just poked with a stick! :lol:
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by UNCLE BINGO » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:17 am

impairedsquirrel wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:04 am
vampicker wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:00 am
Deliberate Participation In Silliness?
Hey, I feel like I was just poked with a stick! :lol:
We don't need anymore poking , or beating , Maybe just a combined effort for the good of the hobby I think . Together this group could change at least a very small corner of this great big world .
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by messydesk » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:31 am

Geseas wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:46 pm
UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:06 am
i Like the DPIS , although it is not really something my brain carries around with it quite yet , it is better and more scientific in my own feeble mind than the subjectivity involved in MM placement . Thanks from one of the new guys !

edit typo

:) Hey Bob. Lets try one [1]! You first. (I have better photographs)RBF1878-SV78.2-001 (3)~2.jpg
Being a pre-1884 dollar, the date position is fixed in the hub, so DPIS is not relevant.
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Re: Attribution 101 page question

Post by vampicker » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:41 pm

messydesk wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:31 am
Geseas wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:46 pm
UNCLE BINGO wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:06 am
i Like the DPIS , although it is not really something my brain carries around with it quite yet , it is better and more scientific in my own feeble mind than the subjectivity involved in MM placement . Thanks from one of the new guys !

edit typo

:) Hey Bob. Lets try one [1]! You first. (I have better photographs)RBF1878-SV78.2-001 (3)~2.jpg
Being a pre-1884 dollar, the date position is fixed in the hub, so DPIS is not relevant.
Ack - didn't read the label on the photo.
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