guess the grade! -- revealed

[DHalladay]

Seller's auction photos shown.
Two-part guessing game here:

1. Guess what grade the certified holder says.
2. Say what your grade is.

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[UNCLE BINGO]

What grading standard would you prefer? More information requested please . What TPG company and what time frame requested please ??? and really that is all I have been saying in a nutshell

[Vam-mysterio]

1.ms64
2.ms62

[UNCLE BINGO]

1.ms64
2.ms62

Interesting ... photo grade vs market grade ?????
One of my favorite stories comes from the red book , when the secretary gets the closest out of all the prominent men doing this kind of thing

[morganman]

ms68
au 50 prove it aint so or Take a Holliday permanent like

[DarksideVAM]

1. 66
2. 63

[UNCLE BINGO]

if given a '6" i would prescribe Thorazine, although I do have a 5 in my watch list on eBay the same could be said for good thing I'm not a Doctor the finalize er would be drooling on his self

[Vamhammer]

1- ms65
2-ms62

[Tekkie1]

MS-65

MS-62/3

[UNCLE BINGO]

better , and i will concur with the last two posters as the reality of the day . unfortunately, we deserve better fellers , just say in'

[UNCLE BINGO]

please do tell Mr.D if its 61 and 61 I will be surprised , but I am curios about the details of your post

[Eschaton]

The grading game is just that, a game. I send in coins for regrades all the time because people get it wrong at the grading services just like in life.

In terms of a technical grade, it would be 63 with the strong mark on the face.

In terms of a market grade, because it has frosty cheek luster, they probably 64’d it. PCGS is all about original surfaces and luster.

That said, I’ve seen uglier 65s (which is sad).

I also say, I don’t like the difference between the look of the obverse and reverse, and I’d be keen to look for problems like microfiber cloth wiping on the reverse or what have you.

I remember about 15 years ago one of the veterans on this forum showed us all a relatively big money coin in a 64 holder at the LB show that would’ve been overgraded at 62. Preferred customer grading service?

[DHalladay]

Here's the reveal.
No it's not my coin; I just found it when going through eBay sales results.

eBay item number: 165729825934

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[messydesk]

The $640 question is what does that mark on the cheek look like in hand? Is it a scuff or toning? First reaction is scuff, but you can't be sure from a single picture. The similar colored and shaped bit in the right obverse fields is not a scuff. The fields look very clean. It does seem overgraded at 67, though.

[Malachi35]

The $640 question is what does that mark on the cheek look like in hand? Is it a scuff or toning? First reaction is scuff, but you can't be sure from a single picture. The similar colored and shaped bit in the right obverse fields is not a scuff. The fields look very clean. It does seem overgraded at 67, though.

I agree

[Tekkie1]

Dang that's off!

The pics are strange.

In the first Obv shot , the ear and hair above the earlobe appear to be flattened and in the "reveal" shot, the same earlobe looks nice and full while the hair remains flat.

[lioncutter]

I could be wrong, because of the lighting. Are the two obverses shown the same coin?

[DHalladay]

I could be wrong, because of the lighting. Are the two obverses shown the same coin?

All photos shown were downloaded off the auction listing.

[impairedsquirrel]

Typical, but you do have to keep an eye on those ICG holders, I've had a few straight crossers and even had an ICG64 fall into an NGC64+ holder (and it was on an 80P v9).

[UNCLE BINGO]

I could be wrong, because of the lighting. Are the two obverses shown the same coin?

Hmmmm

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