1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

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ShamShield
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1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by ShamShield » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:41 pm

I'm having a hard time finding a match for this 1888 P. I think it has some light letter clash "n", the date is doubled but I don't see a doubled profile. In addition either reverse is doubled, tripled?, in some cases quadrupled? There are die scratches reverse and a squiggle in the last 8. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by ShamShield » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:44 pm

Tripled A and R in America? Quadrupled left leaves and/or berries? Also die scratches and the right star reverse doubling.
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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by ShamShield » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:46 pm

Whole coin, AMERICA, polish lines and doubling of arrows, doubling of tailfaithers and bow.
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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by morganman » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:57 pm

Looks like easy attrib from here- Double Dte- dte 2.75 reeds to neck- obv nice counter
clasher- DDO & REV- CLASH REV

START with 2x dte & clasher variety & DDO/REV

Good luck as i wont bother to look up as to easy &
you need to do the homework
:|

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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by ShamShield » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:27 pm

Vam 12A by the reverse it looks like. What about the berries and leaves are they truly trip/quad or is it just a worn die?

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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by Jodemyer » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:34 pm

I have two like this, I think the tripling on America is doubling with what appears to be the third is die deteriation. I think the leaf in your photo and on mine is tripled if not quadrupled and not sure about the berries...at least doubled.

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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by Jodemyer » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:44 pm

Just looked closer, def quad and tripled on wreath leaves and berries.

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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by Jodemyer » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:57 pm

Heres why I think the America is doubled along with Die deterioration. But the left leg in M does look tripled to me. I did not realize this Vam had so much going on. I had picked two raw ones because of the clash marks and this is the first time I am really looking at them good. Thanks for posting!
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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by ShamShield » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:21 pm

I just really enjoy clashing and so I spend a good deal looking them over...I'm glad it's helping you enjoy yours more!

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Re: 1888 P VAM HELP TRIPLE? QUADRUPLE?

Post by Jodemyer » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:21 pm

Thanks!@ ShamShield. The more clashed cracked doubled and broken the better! When I first started looking at coins I started with collecting Lincolns, then Kennedy's and now Morgans, which are my favorite because there are so many varieties! Nothing like it to me! I am hooked! I seem to be spending way too much time with them but you only live once and It's what I enjoy!

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