1921-D VAM 5C question

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1921-D VAM 5C question

Post by DHalladay » Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:38 pm

The official name, listing and description for VAM 5C says:

1921-D VAM-5C Tripled Date & Stars, Die Break Inside S #2

Discovered by Rob Joyce, March 2005. Revised description Sept 2007.
5C(revised) IV 4 D2a (Tripled Date & Stars, Die Break Inside S # 2) (189) I-2 R-6
Reverse D2a - Die crack thru top of TES up to rim above A with small bean shaped die break at bottom inside of lower loop of second S. Break more centered than VAMs 5A(1Y) & 5B. Fine die scratches in various directions on over polished tail feathers around eagle's right leg and between eagle's left wing and body.
Die marker - Long vertical die scratch at inner feathers of eagle's left wing.

Comments:
1. This is a "Bean Bottom S" variety.


So if this is a textbook VAM 5C (it's in an attributed ANACS holder):
1921-D VAM 5C LDS.jpg
1921-D VAM 5C LDS.jpg (361.92 KiB) Viewed 284 times

... then what does that make this? (self-attributed as 5C EDS; has all the major PUPs listed for 5C, but not all of the cracks – and none of the Bean Bottom S):
1921-D VAM 5C EDS.jpg
1921-D VAM 5C EDS.jpg (368.62 KiB) Viewed 284 times

Does that make it a 5B?
Does that make it a sub-variety of 5C?
Or is it just a 5C curiosity?
When in doubt... don't.

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Re: 1921-D VAM 5C question

Post by messydesk » Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:16 pm

I'd call it VAM 5C EDS, since it's its own die pair. The description on my label would include something like, "early die stage before break in S forms." I could possibly be convinced to split it into 5C1 (Scribbles only) and 5C2 (Scribbles + break) since they're easily distinguishable and you would send me both coins for examination.
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Re: 1921-D VAM 5C question

Post by DHalladay » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:06 pm

messydesk wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:16 pm
I'd call it VAM 5C EDS, since it's its own die pair. The description on my label would include something like, "early die stage before break in S forms." I could possibly be convinced to split it into 5C1 (Scribbles only) and 5C2 (Scribbles + break) since they're easily distinguishable and you would send me both coins for examination.

Excellent! :D
I'll do that when things settle down there.
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Re: 1921-D VAM 5C question

Post by fogie » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:22 pm

1 more hole to fill.... nice job buddy.... :mrgreen:

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Re: 1921-D VAM 5C question

Post by DHalladay » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:37 pm

fogie wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:22 pm
1 more hole to fill.... nice job buddy.... :mrgreen:

Pfft...
What's the difference between 5,112 slots to fill and 5,113? :lol:
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