Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

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Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by Windycity » Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:24 pm

Here are images of a "discovery VAM" of my submitted to LVA in 2015. Now the VamWorld listing simply saw pitted reverse (which this coin is not) and no images. I don't think it was delisted but I can't find it otherwise. Any help appreciated.

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Re: Help "Re-Indentifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by colwillys » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:01 pm

I have checked my PEACE DOLLAR DIE VARIETIES DESCRIPTIVE LISTINGS from 2016 when it first listed.
No die chip listing .. I have 2 1922-P VAM 2EM back to back holdered . I will dig them out .
I have both coins in hand ,,Show NO die chip at hair end , both same as LVA VAM 2EM listing in all
listings from 2016 -2020 . OH SHIT their is a PROBLEM .

Check your paper move the photo out of the way . Your pictures are not a match for the REV .

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Re: Help "Re-Indentifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by Windycity » Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:18 am

Here is an image of the lower part of the letter. Clearly my coin is very different from the current VAM 2EM listing.

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Re: Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by vampicker » Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:50 am

I don't see anything in the current listings matching this. I had thought this may have gotten revised before the update came out, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I'd suggest you PM Dr. Close
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Re: Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by messydesk » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:52 pm

I looked through Leroy's archives and the problem might be that he had a data loss in 2015 and reused the number. I don't see the 2015 supplement, but in the 2016 supplement and in a couple letters sent out in 2016, he says that VAM 2EM has a pitted reverse and says nothing about the die chip. I searched his archive of letters and didn't find any other references or your discovery letter

I propose that your coin be relisted as VAM 2FN, still as the discovery piece, essentially renumbering the original VAM 2EM. I'll double-check with David to see if that number has already been used.
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Re: Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by davidkclose » Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:37 am

The coin listed above as "VAM 2EM discovery" is actually VAM 1i. Note B1 reverse.
Leroy evidently reused the "VAM 2EM" designation for another variety w/ pitted reverse die. In my 2015 supplement, there is no mention of the die chip for VAM 2EM.
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Re: Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by vampicker » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:11 pm

The reverse image posted looks like a B2 to me. Might be worth digging out the VAM 1i discovery piece and flipping it over. Didn't find the obverse plate earlier because I didn't look through the B1 listings.
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Re: Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by crabscrape » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:16 pm

Its a B1 reverse

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Re: Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by vampicker » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:44 pm

OK, I stand corrected.
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Re: Help "Re-Identifying" 1922 VAM Discovery Piece

Post by colwillys » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:07 pm

I have this 1922-P VAM 1i in hand .. This coin has heavy clashing but was filed off
by mint . Their could be REV E out running around , some of the OBV clash are still
in place and some have been file ..
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