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vampicker wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:26 pm

"She blinded me with science' comes to mind

Quite the Safety Dance involved in making these, too.

Back from ANACS and it said Send to Dr. Feelgood DR. CLOSE HELP . I also have a 1923-P that need a look see .

The Collar Clash was a Transition from years ago when vamming had slowed from die breaks on Peace Dollars. Coins back in the day were found by vammers more easlier then today. The vammers of old will tell you the same. However, for the the new and up and coming keep the hunt up.

messydesk wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:36 pm

If the reeding is otherwise normal (coin struck fully in collar) and there's additional reeding on the rim, it would be a collar clash, where the hammer die hit the collar die before striking this coin.

It should be noted that initially, the collar clash is caused by vertical/horizontal misalignment of the hammer die.

RogerRock wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:33 am

messydesk wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:36 pm

If the reeding is otherwise normal (coin struck fully in collar) and there's additional reeding on the rim, it would be a collar clash, where the hammer die hit the collar die before striking this coin.

It should be noted that initially, the collar clash is caused by vertical/horizontal misalignment of the hammer die.

that is precisely how i have it pictured in my mind, especially since during certain decades, the mints seem to have one heck of a time keep up production numbers WHILE keeping that pesky collar in place all the time. sure makes for a lot of neat errors and in decent quantity, especially from the 60s forward.

i wasn't going to say it but since the latest post say that:

i've seen a lot of coins with the collar clash divots to varying degrees, also have and/or m.a.d. and/or titled/partial collar errors with partial reeding, minimal reeding, only just reeding impressions (i found a really neat quarter with just barely reeding marks, about 5% away from being broadstruck), railroad rims etc, so there seems to be a family of errors connected to each other. i've seen other little clusters like this with errors, where one either directly or indirectly causes and/or is on the same coin(s). it is kinda neat once you get a group together and compare them.

Yes i know this is a machine error .. A ANACS PROFESSIONAL says send to Dr. Close , so you Pro Vammer say No .

colwillys wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:17 pm

Yes i know this is a machine error .. A ANACS PROFESSIONAL says send to Dr. Close , so you Pro Vammer say No .

whom said no?

i re-read the thread and didn't see anyone say that.

Dr. Close

Okay could be 1923-S VAM 1EO . Collar clash rim . ANACS says have Dr.Close check and return to ANACS .