1898-P far date?

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keilg1
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1898-P far date?

Post by keilg1 » Mon May 09, 2022 2:42 pm

As I look at the described varieties, there are only near, normal and slanted (normal) dates - but none listed as far. Might have some slant to it, but none of the slanted dates are (apparently) as far.

Do I read the date placement correctly as far? If not, none of the other pictures look to be 'as far' as this one. No other discernable PUPs that I can see that'd help identify a relationship to other dies.

Can't even say someone removed an O or S mintmark because none of those mints produced far date coins either, right? (No scratches to suggest otherwise... I'm just letting my creative detective mind go wild... ;-).

A headscratcher, but it doesn't take much for me to reach that state.

Thanks,

Gary
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Re: 1898-P far date?

Post by Mike7E » Mon May 09, 2022 4:04 pm

This looks like it is at RE3 LE5 that is at the extreme of Normal Date.

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Re: 1898-P far date?

Post by DurhamJnKY » Mon May 09, 2022 4:13 pm

Have you looked at 14?

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Re: 1898-P far date?

Post by keilg1 » Mon May 09, 2022 5:06 pm

Thanks, @DurhamJnKY.

Mine looks even a little further right. I can't make out the doubling of the 8 but the 14 was a good start and might prove to be it in the end.

Here's a low resolution of the date but more up close:
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Re: 1898-P far date?

Post by LateDateMorganGuy » Mon May 09, 2022 7:20 pm

Couple of ways to look at this.

The date is in the normal position, albeit right within normal. Personally, I wouldn't even call it far right within normal.

That being said, as a normal date and no other listable markers, I would call it a VAM-1.

But, with 5.9M coins minted and only 14 base VAMs listed, it could be a candidate for a new listing, even if it is VAM-1 Die Pair 1.

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Re: 1898-P far date?

Post by keilg1 » Tue May 10, 2022 5:34 pm

Thanks @LateDateMorganGuy. That's one of the many things I love about this subjective hobby: what is normal in one series is not normal in another; what is slanted in one isn't in another; but all of them are somehow attractive and I want them in my set...

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Re: 1898-P far date?

Post by blh74 » Tue May 10, 2022 10:42 pm

In the VAM book Leroy has only three dies listed as near date.

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