Stumped on an 82-S (Dbl. cap & wing)

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Melvin_Deal
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Stumped on an 82-S (Dbl. cap & wing)

Post by Melvin_Deal » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:13 am

Hi all!

Once again I'm stumped after going through the list and pics four times. Imagine that! :shock:

Once again I'm hopeful somebody wiser than I (that being about everybody here) can help me out. I've looked at this coin until I'm seeing stars. Ha Ha.

This is a doubled date with die chips in all four loop junctions of the 8's. The legend, cotton bolls, ear, and obverse stars are all quite bland and uneventful. There is just a touch of doubling on Ms. Liberty's forehead plus the LI & corner of T in Liberty. The cap is strongly doubled.

It appears to be an S/S variety that doesn't seem to match the others. The left reverse star is doubled, the right tripled. The left wing is doubled down the middle. There are a couple polish/file lines in an unusual place under the arrow shafts below the Eagle's left foot. The letters ONE have some doubling. as does the N of United.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Re: Stumped on an 82-S (Dbl. cap & wing)

Post by Melvin_Deal » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:16 am

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Re: Stumped on an 82-S (Dbl. cap & wing)

Post by Melvin_Deal » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:18 am

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Re: Stumped on an 82-S (Dbl. cap & wing)

Post by Melvin_Deal » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:21 am

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Re: Stumped on an 82-S (Dbl. cap & wing)

Post by messydesk » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:46 am

Start with the date and mint mark before looking elsewhere. The S/S is machine doubling, so ignore that. The 882 in the date has legitimate doubling around the tops of the digits and the first 8 looks to have doubling on the inside left surface of the upper loop. That should get you far. The base of the 1 is likely machine doubled.
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Re: Stumped on an 82-S (Dbl. cap & wing)

Post by Melvin_Deal » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:44 pm

Thank you sooooo much for that!! I readily went to it this AM armed with your advisement and fresh eyes... VAM 22, Rev. die 1

I suspected the mintmark to be machine doubled as well as one axis of the two reverse stars. The one completely fooled me. I suspected S/S mark because of the line in the lower loop (the first photo was not a good one).

The psychology of vamming is interesting. I find that, as with some other things, my stubborness can be an impediment. When I spot things such as a doubled wing and star or polish/file lines in unusual places I think surely these must be in the listing. This is often not the case. I sometimes pass over the correct identification multiple times. I am finding that if I walk away and return the next day with fresh eyes and mind I'll save much time moving forward. There is something self-reflective and zen about the process of discovering die cracks within ones own mind.

I really appreciate the guidance and assistance I've received here! I try to help others but find I'm beaten to it as so many are eager to help. I'll continue to try though, and hopefully succeed in passing on the blessing.

Sincerely,
-Mel
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