1922-D VAM-2A evil mimic - unknown darkside find

[keilg1]

No offense, but I'm not a fan of the dark side and this coin is why.

I've looked through the B2 break guide as I'm pretty sure this should be found there, but I'm coming up empty.

Closest thing I can find is a 2A http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... 2-D_VAM-2A, but clearly this is not that - well, clearly to me. Only other close one I can find is the 2AQ http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... D_VAM-2AQ based on the cracking through GOD but it deviates substantially once it hits TRVST.

Any help from you dark side afficionados?

Here's some pictures showing the coin in question on the righthand side of the pictures compared to the 2A. Again, lots of similarities but more differences...

First, FCO (sorry for the poor resolution, by my phone and not my Dinolite):

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And FCR

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Next will be comparator shots.

Thanks up front,

Gary

[keilg1]

Part 2:

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Can provide more but I think you'll see my 2A doubt, and confusion of what it might be...

Gary

[colwillys]

VAM 2A1 ..

[RogerRock]

Gary - The die crack/die break guides are woefully incomplete. Many VAM listings have not been updated into the guides.

[ljs123]

VAM 2A1 ..

Tom,
I think his coin is the other one in the post.
Not the 2A1 that he is showing as a comp.
I’m not much help on the Peace dollars.

[keilg1]

VAM 2A1 ..

Tom,
I think his coin is the other one in the post.
Not the 2A1 that he is showing as a comp.
I’m not much help on the Peace dollars.

Thanks, and yes the 2A1 is there as a comparator. The cracking pattern of the coin in question is not likely the 2A1 even though it has many similarities.

For example, the 2A1 goes into the slanted portion of the N (IN) but mine goes through the middle of the G and just below the O; enters into the neck and TRVS in different spots, progresses across the cap and into the Y in different spots...

Thus, I'm calling it a 2A evil mimic because I'm sure it is not that, but I have no idea what it might be!

[oldcollector]

how about the 2AA

[oldcollector]

yep matches my Vam 2AA

[keilg1]

yep matches my Vam 2AA

Thanks, but unfortunately, nope. Perhaps because I didn't share the best pictures, so here are some more. Cracks on the left and right sides of the obverse don't quite align to the 2AA.

For example, the crack through the G is the one that progresses across to the neck, not like the 2AA where the crack through the G ends and a new one begins that then goes to the neck.

The crack on the right through the V of TRVST on mine doesn't hit the verticle line of the V letter like the 2AA does.

And the crack from through the cap is missing on the 2AA but pronounced on mine, and the crack through the Y doesn't begin in the denticle in mine and progresses at a slightly different place across the Y (and is different than the one progressing through the V below - it's the same crack in the 2AA as far as I can see).

Mine also looks like it has a crack from the B rays E and to the R that is not seen in the 2AA?

Hope these help. Thanking you in advance! Definitely a head-scratcher to me.

Gary

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[keilg1]

Nice way to kill about 30 minutes on a sunny Friday afternoon? Marching through all the varieties on the 22-D B2 reverse page.

Found nothing that I can see that matches the cracking pattern. I'll hold on sending this one in until we get the nod of approval by David C unless one of you Peace(ful) experts can help ID it beforehand.

Thanks in advance and to those helping me with the exploration. Now I know why I stick with Morgans, but I do see the allure of the dark side...

[davidkclose]

This coin is in my stack of those to be listed, since you posted your coin here, I am happy to give you credit for the discovery.
The listing is to be as follows:

1922D VAM 2CF - Retained cud below Y #2
Die cracks obverse, with raised area cud below Y terminating in radial die crack K3
Unclashed B2 reverse

Here are my photos, I would appreciate help in starting the page.

[keilg1]

@davidkclose , thank you for saving my sanity on this. I see the draw to the dark side because of this fun but am unsure if I'll officially join the ranks! Well, not just yet.

Appreciate your help and wishing you well.

Gary

[RogerRock]

1922 D VAM 2CF was just entered as your Discovery Piece Gary , as promised by David Close. Congrats - Welcome to the Darkside !

[jrfaust]

NICE! WTG Gary! Be careful, the dark side can easily draw you in.....

[keilg1]

Got the coin back from JR and ANACS with the 2CF DC designation - a nice 'details' designation but a DC nevertheless.

Can/should a page be created as well as the SSDC registry (as I see there isn't a spot for this coin yet)?

Happy to help if I can, just say the word. Thanks again, @davidkclose and others. I'm still only dipping my toe on this darkside fun...

[Geseas]

Got the coin back from JR and ANACS with the 2CF DC designation - a nice 'details' designation but a DC nevertheless.

Thanks for making this a great site!

Would you be willing to share a photo of your DC in its new home? May be nice addition for page. thanks

I am not finding the 1922-D VAM-2CF pg. This doesn't mean it isn't there... It may be in the system*

*yes, in system. http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... did=225734. Just fill in?

[keilg1]

Thanks for the link. The main page (http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compu ... 922-D_VAMs) will need to be edited to add it to the list - currently skips from 2CE to 2CG according to what I see. I'll do it all if/when I have the chance.

Appreciate the info, @Geseas.

[Geseas]

This coin is in my stack of those to be listed, since you posted your coin here, I am happy to give you credit for the discovery.
The listing is to be as follows:

1922D VAM 2CF - Retained cud below Y #2
Die cracks obverse, with raised area cud below Y terminating in radial die crack K3
Unclashed B2 reverse

Here are my photos, I would appreciate help in starting the page.

I am attempting to start this page. Please monitor my efforts with your finger hovering on that delete/edit button

1922-D_VAM-2CF