1878 S Trade Dollar

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1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by JASONKFLO » Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:03 pm

I picked this up today. I have lots of Morgan's and some Peace Dollar's but this is my first Trade Dollar.
Coin is lovely in hand.
It has a very old obverse scratch around 11 to 12 O'clock but is not distracting at all to me due to the placement.
I figured it was worth bringing home from my LCS .
I don't really know anything about Trade Dollars besides that alot of them I have seen look cleaned and still get straight graded. I think if this was a Morgan it would get details scratch but not sure how they handle Trade Dollar's.
Regardless I think its quite attractive for a circulated coin.
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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by RogerB » Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:47 am

Low EF, details, cleaned.

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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by JASONKFLO » Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:26 am

RogerB wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:47 am
Low EF, details, cleaned.
Probably the photos.
Looks quite original in hand. No hairlines and original skin. Nice color as well. Has some dirt and grime around the devices but thats it. Still some luster around the date and letters .
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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by Prider358 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:17 am

Hi Jason, nice Trade Dollar. I have about 7. I like the OBV and REV design, they don't come cheap though, otherwise I'd certainly buy more. :D

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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by VamHelsing » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:55 pm

Hey Jason, let me know if you want to see a really ugly one!

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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by colwillys » Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:17 pm

I had to buy some Trade Dollars , just because i have some Morgan and Peace Dollars .

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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by JASONKFLO » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:52 pm

VamHelsing wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:55 pm
Hey Jason, let me know if you want to see a really ugly one!
Haha I’ll probably buy some more but not sure I can afford AU or up
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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by LateDateMorganGuy » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:23 pm

From my painful experience, I suggest you collect Trade Dollars with caution. I would not buy anything unless it is an a TPG holder. Even then you can get burned. There are many, many great fakes out there.

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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by JASONKFLO » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:43 pm

LateDateMorganGuy wrote:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:23 pm
From my painful experience, I suggest you collect Trade Dollars with caution. I would not buy anything unless it is an a TPG holder. Even then you can get burned. There are many, many great fakes out there.
Thanks yeah I was thinking that was a good idea. I bought this from my local shop so fingers crossed it’s Legit . I really only know to look at the arrow position over the date and the ribbon so I am not very knowledgeable on these . Fingers crossed.
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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by RogerB » Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:27 am

There were many problems with Trade dollar dies in 1877 and 1878 at San Francisco, mostly due to inconsistent hardening. Dir. Linderman eventually hired J. H. Hunter to learn die hardening and tempering at Philadelphia, then sent him to SF to correct the problems. Linderman was also anticipating the need for better and more efficient die work as approval the the new Standard Dollar approached.

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Post by vamsterdam » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:39 pm

i would also caution everyone when buying trade dollars. i saw 2 slabbed counterfeits that were so good that i could not tell they were counterfeits until i was shown why. one is in a PCGS AU50 holder and the other is ICG60(and i warned ICG what to look for before it was slabbed!).These are of a class never before seen. no rounding or beevling of the devices, weight, strike, and luster are correct. they are frighteningly good.

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Re: 1878 S Trade Dollar

Post by JASONKFLO » Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:50 pm

Got my grade back on this one today
XF-45 NGC
here is NGC pics
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